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Old 05-17-2007, 10:28 AM
RunDownHouse RunDownHouse is offline
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Default 50NL: I called loose and now have no idea what to do

First orbit, so no reads. Do I flat call here? I have no idea if I've got any FE with the raiser, its not like a set ever lays down here, and neither does the NFD.

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BB ($26.25)
UTG ($32.95)
MP ($25.70)
CO ($49.95)
Hero ($50)
SB ($53.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, Hero calls $2, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($9) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $10</font>...
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:33 AM
davekngs davekngs is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: I called loose and now have no idea what to do

shove you have a ton of FE and a big draw. any raise commits your stack so a shove is better
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:36 AM
Machavelli Machavelli is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: I called loose and now have no idea what to do

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shove you have a ton of FE and a big draw. any raise commits your stack so a shove is better

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I'm normally all about shoving these slightly +EV spots but i really do not think this is one of them. You don't have that much FE in this spot, you're flush draw is not likely good and its possible you're straight wont even do it. I think this is a fold IMO.
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:38 AM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: I called loose and now have no idea what to do

You're drawing to two situations with 0 implied odds and horrible pot odds. This is a clear fold, if it wasn't clear.

If you hit the flush and you're not beat, the betting will dry up and you get nothing. If you're beat, you're stacked. If you hit the straight, same principle.
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Old 05-17-2007, 11:02 AM
Jouster777 Jouster777 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: I called loose and now have no idea what to do

I don't think you need to have much fear of a higher straight (though CO could have flopped an equal one) and as the PFR'er FD is a small part of MP's range (I doubt CO has a bare FD). I agree with others that you have little FE.

I'd probably go for a call if stack sizes were all the same but MP is going to fold or push and that screws up your odds...fold
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:33 AM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: I called loose and now have no idea what to do

Depends: Do you want to attempt to draw out to the second best flush or would you rather draw out to the second best straight?

Fold.
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: I called loose and now have no idea what to do

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Depends: Do you want to attempt to draw out to the second best flush or would you rather draw out to the second best straight?

Fold.

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LOL very nice. Fold preflop.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: I called loose and now have no idea what to do

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Depends: Do you want to attempt to draw out to the second best flush or would you rather draw out to the second best straight?

Fold.

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Old 05-17-2007, 06:15 PM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: I called loose and now have no idea what to do

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Depends: Do you want to attempt to draw out to the second best flush or would you rather draw out to the second best straight?

Fold.

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You're drawing to two situations with 0 implied odds and horrible pot odds. This is a clear fold, if it wasn't clear.

If you hit the flush and you're not beat, the betting will dry up and you get nothing. If you're beat, you're stacked. If you hit the straight, same principle.

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Old 05-17-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: I called loose and now have no idea what to do

preflop is terribly standard

shove over the raise
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