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AA, facing big turn raise and river push
Villain's 3rd hand at the table I figured he was likely bluffing/semi-bluffing or just stupidly overplaying something I beat. I thought for a long time on the river to come to this conclusion. Thoughts?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) SB ($9.30) BB ($26) UTG ($26) MP ($38.80) Hero ($40.30) Button ($25.50) Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.75</font>, Button calls $0.75, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($1.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.25</font>, Button calls $1.25. Turn: ($4.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $4.25. River: ($18.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $16.5 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $16.50. Final Pot: $51.35 |
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Re: AA, facing big turn raise and river push
I'm betting more pretty much everywhere. As played you don't know if his turn bet is strong or attacking your weakness.
I think putting him on a semi-bluff is a pretty long shot. Hardly anyone is semi-bluffing on the turn at these stakes. |
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Re: AA, facing big turn raise and river push
Raise more Pre-flop, I like the flop, I'd rather a larger raise on the turn, but regarding the river, I think you're calling.
Reasoning: I think he's on a flush draw on the turn. He probably puts you on a hugely missed flop because it's a weak flop, he floats your CBet and when he gets a draw, tries to push you off of it. When it misses, it's also a scare card that he knows you don't have a part of, because you would have come over the top to his reraise on the turn. I expect to see either AJ, busted flush, or QQ+ here if he puts you on the Jack. |
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Re: AA, facing big turn raise and river push
So is 3x too small of a standard open? I always thought it was more of a matter of preference. Am I giving up $ opening for 3 rather than 4.
Also good analysis, I think. He had A5d for the the gutshot and turned flush draw. I guess he was trying to represent a flopped set, but given the board and action I felt like it was a tough sell. |
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Re: AA, facing big turn raise and river push
[ QUOTE ]
So is 3x too small of a standard open? I always thought it was more of a matter of preference. Am I giving up $ opening for 3 rather than 4. [/ QUOTE ] What I'm finding is the lower the stakes, the bigger the BB multiple you must raise to 1) minimize callers 2) force callers to define their hands. You only got 1 caller which is good ( I only want 2 max w/my big PP's, but that is a personal preference). At these levels, its too tempting for fish to call 3 BB with nothing. The theorists will say this is a good thing, and from a Sklansky money standpoint they are correct, but from a practical "what did this idiot call me with " standpoint, it makes more difficult. I admit I'm more sensitive to this than most because I lead the league in getting my big PP's cracked with trash. |
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Re: AA, facing big turn raise and river push
I've had 4-bets called with 8/3 off-suit from the big blind HU.
It's scary sometimes. |
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