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Old 05-16-2007, 07:38 AM
mertzo mertzo is offline
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Default Moved up, 3betting 88.

No reads.

CO $48
BTN $152
SB $182
hero $172
UTG $387

I am in big blind with pocket eights.

Two calls, BTN raises to $10, BB calls, Hero raises to $35(to small? spew without reads?), Everyone folds exept button.

Pot is now $74, eff stacks is now $127

The flops comes 6 2 3 with two hearts.

Plan?

On the flop i really started to hate my betsizing preflop, but when youre new to the blinds its hard to do the math quickly. If i had more time id make it $46, is that good?
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:43 AM
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Default Re: Moved up, 3betting 88.

your hand is right in the middle where calling preflop is probably best
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: Moved up, 3betting 88.

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your hand is right in the middle where calling preflop is probably best

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Old 05-16-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: Moved up, 3betting 88.

push
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:10 AM
mertzo mertzo is offline
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Default Re: Moved up, 3betting 88.

Ok, so call preflop. Move on to the flop. Thepuma you know that a push would be almost twice the potsize right?

I decided to bet 39 and to call a push.

Folding seemed weak(could be very wrong here) and if he is on a FD or just wants to take it down with AK or whatever, i wanted him to believe that there is FE for him to take advantage of.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:14 AM
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Default Re: Moved up, 3betting 88.

Ignore Puma's comment he is being a jack@ss
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: Moved up, 3betting 88.

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Folding seemed weak(could be very wrong here) and if he is on a FD or just wants to take it down with AK or whatever, i wanted him to believe that there is FE for him to take advantage of.

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95% of the time if he is pushing here over your raise its not for fold equity. So stop thinking so deep in this situation
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:30 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: Moved up, 3betting 88.

If you don't take down the pot pre-flop any bet you make on the flop turns your hand into a bluff or if you call a bluff-catcher.

There's really no reason to 3-bet mid Pairs pre, your requirements for playing PPs are the five-ten rule.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: Moved up, 3betting 88.

As played, I'm betting $45 and folding to a push.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:23 PM
WoodyWoahzay WoodyWoahzay is offline
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Default Re: Moved up, 3betting 88.

An aggressive opponent is going to have a fairly big range to make that bet so I don't think the 3 bet is bad in itself but stacks sizes just make it tough on nearly every flop when ur called. If the button had a deeper stack, or perhaps a smaller stack, then I see nothing wrong with the 3bet especially if we have a tightish image (which new level nits normally do [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]).
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