Am I a Jerk or is this a fair move?

[artichoker]

out of position one player ahead of me. i am about to raise on the turn have half pot size chips (considerable amount) in my hand cross the line in the air and have not yet put my chips down. mind you im not trying to get a reaction, moving slowly, or not purposefully trying to angle this play at all. player in position says all in and tosses chips pat the line on the table. it was the quickest move ive ever seen by anyone. so without touching the felt i took my chips back and mucked my hand.

[Howard Beale]

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out of position one player ahead of me. i am about to raise on the turn have half pot size chips (considerable amount) in my hand cross the line in the air and have not yet put my chips down. mind you im not trying to get a reaction, moving slowly, or not purposefully trying to angle this play at all. player in position says all in and tosses chips pat the line on the table. it was the quickest move ive ever seen by anyone. so without touching the felt i took my chips back and mucked my hand.

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Since this happens a zillion times a day in the limit games I play in if it's considered a *jerk move* you've got lots of company.

[Rottersod]

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out of position one player ahead of me. i am about to raise on the turn have half pot size chips (considerable amount) in my hand cross the line in the air and have not yet put my chips down. mind you im not trying to get a reaction, moving slowly, or not purposefully trying to angle this play at all. player in position says all in and tosses chips pat the line on the table. it was the quickest move ive ever seen by anyone. so without touching the felt i took my chips back and mucked my hand.

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No, it's not a jerk move. Not your fault if the other player acted before you. Unless there is a rule where you play that any chips over the betting line is an enforced bet then you have every right to take it back after his action.

[bernie]

So basically, you accidentally half acted out of turn?

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[ShipitFMA]

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So basically, you accidentally half acted out of turn?

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Nope, he held chips over the betting line but they didnt touch the felt. The other guy he raises and immediately said allin. OP mucked his hand whilst taking his chips back.

Anyway, the other guy is just a schmuck, his fault

[pig4bill]

Beware that in some rooms that's a bet by rule.

[CrazyIvan24]

This should be dead money. It is a bet once chips cross the line.

[Bicycles_Biatch]

I would have dropped one chip (your action)... then folded.

[TMTTR]

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This should be dead money. It is a bet once chips cross the line.

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I love people who make these kind of conclusions without knowing what the house rules are. Betting lines mean different things (or nothing at all) in different places.

Generally, there is nothing wrong with this move. Actual mileage may vary.

[bernie]

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Beware that in some rooms that's a bet by rule.

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Yep. Sometimes it doesn't have to touch the felt, it just has to go over the line. Even in the air.

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