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Am I Commited to call a pf shove with AKs?
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $10/$20 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $2149 UTG+1: $4153 CO: $1903 Button: $2143 SB: $3234 Hero: $3088 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $110</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $350</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $2033</font>, Hero ??? Table is all good TAGs. I've been only min-raising when opening pre-flop, and one guy has been liberally 3-betting me. Once we tangled when I cold-called a pfr, then he 3 bet from the SB, and I called then called his flop bet. He check folded. Another TAG raised my min-raise and I 4-bet and he folded. So it's been a typically aggro pre-flop table. One of the TAG started min-raising as well and I wasnt sure what to make of it. But that's another topic. So I come to the hand. Villain is a 25/17/2.9 and I havent tangled with him specifically yet. Those stories above were other TAGs. We havent been in a pot together yet. In fact, I dont think this guy really has got involved with anyone since I've sat. This is the first time I squeezed. Pot odds: $1683 to call to win $2433, 1.446 to 1. 40.9% equity needed for break-even. Now here's the scary part: If I give him the benefit of the doubt and say his range is only AA-QQ and AK: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 41.904% 22.62% 19.28% 8133909 6934104.00 { AsKs } Hand 1: 58.096% 38.81% 19.28% 13956267 6934104.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo } It's a call. But what if we throw out QQ! equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 40.246% 13.34% 26.91% 3425229 6911839.50 { AsKs } Hand 1: 59.754% 32.84% 26.91% 8435652 6911839.50 { KK+, AKs, AKo } It's almost break-even to call even if his range is only AA, KK, AK! The obvious other benefits of calling are: he could be bluffing with a [censored] hand - he raised on the button after 2 limpers - and it will dissuade people from reraising me pre-flop and shows them that I wasnt squeezing 2 limpers and a raiser. The con - he might not have AK - he may just have AA/KK and is shoving because he thinks I'm LAGgy enough that I might call his shove with whatever. I was a little hesitant because this particular guy hadn't been splashing around... if one of the guys I had previously been battling with had shoved, I would insta-call. Thoughts? |
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Re: Am I Commited to call a pf shove with AKs?
umm call?
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Re: Am I Commited to call a pf shove with AKs?
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umm call? [/ QUOTE ] Thank you for that. The detail you gave with your reasons was especially insightful. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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Re: Am I Commited to call a pf shove with AKs?
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It's a call. But what if we throw out QQ! [/ QUOTE ] lol |
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Re: Am I Commited to call a pf shove with AKs?
You need 40.9% equity. I would call even if I knew that I was 40.2 because I hate folding in this type of confrontations. It creates a weak image. Also you should weight AK more than KK/AA since he might opt for a small 4-bet with KK/AA while he is most likely going all-in with AK.
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Re: Am I Commited to call a pf shove with AKs?
he has two aces i think they ar probably the club and the diamond but i udnno maybe the hart i sthink u shuld fold here sumtimes but in general its an lal in situation vecause you have the big slick and its the second best hand in poker so just throw the chihps in the middle and say hwye whatcha got and if hes got it hey thats poker
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Re: Am I Commited to call a pf shove with AKs?
lol
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Re: Am I Commited to call a pf shove with AKs?
i think if you're rerasie, you're commited. And its not a bad thing.
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Re: Am I Commited to call a pf shove with AKs?
So you thought through the hand completely and posted it why?
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Re: Am I Commited to call a pf shove with AKs?
anybody else like a bigger re-raise pf here? I like a 4x raise, I think making it 350 oop is a little too small here, I'd have gone 440 or so.
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