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Old 05-06-2007, 09:54 PM
timex timex is offline
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Default I always think I am so clever...


Hand #42206663-55 at Sun830pmA-004 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 06/May/07 21:44:30

KBroz is at seat 0 with 14385.
rockets_Ifold is at seat 1 with 21390.
oiltrader is at seat 2 with 10895.
thebusyguy is at seat 3 with 1280.
koysor77 is at seat 4 with 10795.
dave118 is at seat 5 with 8650.
Mr_BigQueso is at seat 6 with 10990.
NorthernTouch is at seat 7 with 1770.
longhorn757 is at seat 8 with 16645.
vaman14 is at seat 9 with 3700.
The button is at seat 8.

vaman14 posts the small blind of 50.
KBroz posts the big blind of 100.

KBroz: -- --
rockets_Ifold: Qd As
oiltrader: -- --
thebusyguy: -- --
koysor77: -- --
dave118: -- --
Mr_BigQueso: -- --
NorthernTouch: -- --
longhorn757: -- --
vaman14: -- --

Pre-flop:

rockets_Ifold raises to 350. oiltrader folds.
thebusyguy folds. koysor77 folds. dave118 folds.
Mr_BigQueso folds. NorthernTouch folds. longhorn757
folds. vaman14 folds. KBroz calls.

Flop (board: Qh Js Ks):

KBroz bets 550. rockets_Ifold calls.

Turn (board: Qh Js Ks Ts):

KBroz bets 1850. rockets_Ifold goes all-in for 20490.



I love tricking people into calling with the nuts and no draw for n times the pot, with 2 spades and 2 on the board, I like this a lot, thoughts on doing this with 3 spades on the board?
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:59 PM
0evg0 0evg0 is offline
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Default Re: I always think I am so clever...

i think this is absolutely disgusting.

besides a flush draw, wtf is he donking this flop with that flat calls out of BB this deep? and if you think someone is going to fold a flush on a 3-flush board in a donkament, well... lol.
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: I always think I am so clever...

uhh, he's not trying to get a flush to fold; he's trying to get all the money in vs. another Broadway while he's freerolling.
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: I always think I am so clever...

i like the play alot. you are often freerolling and if he has a flush you have a redraw
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: I always think I am so clever...

fold he has Q9ss. I can't see any other way of playing this.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: I always think I am so clever...

Clearly a very good bluff. Pretty sure opponent will fold up to an 8 high flush. But anything starting connected, i.e. 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] will probably call, while a 1-gapper like 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] will be more likely to fold.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:56 AM
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I make this play assuming ANY FLUSH WILL CALL.

Thoughts now?
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:57 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
Clearly a very good bluff. Pretty sure opponent will fold up to an 8 high flush. But anything starting connected, i.e. 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] will probably call, while a 1-gapper like 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] will be more likely to fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

A flush is never folding... ever. Its still a fine play to get money in as a freeroll.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:37 AM
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yeah, lol a flush is not folding ever.

I think it's fine.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: I always think I am so clever...

I like a re-raise, but I am not so sure about going all in.

If your opponent has an A, I think that he will probably call and that you will be freerolling for your nut flush.

However, I am not sure that you will get an all in call from many other hands that you are beating.

I suppose that your opponent might call your all in, with outs to a boat, but then again he might realise that he was behind and not getting the odds to call.

He also just might have made a flush himself and call your all in, leaving you as the underdog to catch the nuts.
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