50NL - badly played top 2 pair on flushing turn HU in position?

[Peter Harris]

Playing someone who is massively deepstacked.

I am @ 1.5 buyins. He's near 6. Won a pot vs villain with A9s vs his KT when he bet the AKx flop and called my river
VALUETOWN bet.

Tell me how badly i mangled this hand. I should bet the turn, right? being c/r sucks but doesn't automatically mean i'm beat? I thought i should check and call a non-club river bet, value bet when checked to, and fold to a donk on
a 4fl river.

NL50, 5handed.

UTG: $31.92
CO: $77
BTN (Hero): $83.80
SB: $58.40
BB: $306.64

Hero is button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Preflop: 1 fold, CO limps $0.50, Hero Raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50.

Flop (Pot $8, 4 players): 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB checks, BB bets $2.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $10, SB folds, BB calls $7.50.

Turn (Pot $27, 2 players): 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB checks, Hero checks.

River (Pot $27, 2 players): 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB bets $16, Hero calls $16.

Final pot $58

[Peter Harris]

bump

is this hand fine? I doubt it. Is the turn check "pot control"? Not sure.

Any comments?

[Peter Harris]

24hr bump

is there something i'm missing in this hand?

[biblesalesman]

I think your pf play is a litte loose but ok thats fine, your postflop play is flawless and so is your turn play I would say. Keeping the pot under control is the right thing to do here. Villian's tiny litte flop bet looks a lot like a flushdraw. I don't like the river call though, what do you really beat anyhow? If he was drawing to a flush or str8 which is quite likely your beat and if he somehow had a set of deuces your beat as well. The bet screams; "I've got a good hand and want to be paid off without scaring you away" IMO. The only thing I see you beating is k9 and thats unlikely.

BTW this might be an offensive question but how is it after 5103 posts on this forum that you still play NL50? (no offense pal [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img])

[Peter Harris]

I think isolating KJ isn't too bad depending on the villain.

I thought after checking the turn i was inducing bets from weaker hands as well as bluffs.

And i imagine about 1k of my posts were in OOT, and before that i spent a lot of time in SSSH limit - moved to NL last month and am taking it slow, plan to be at NL100 next month!

[Some9]

I agree with biblesalesman

The river call kinda sucks. What bets the flop and doesnt beat you on the river? I think a river fold is ok if he is not overly aggressive.

In your spot I would play the same all hand though.

[xeanatic]

I would bet the turn to get him to check to me on the river, anyone else that follows this line?

[Peter Harris]

does this read alter anything - it was in the OP:

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I am @ 1.5 buyins. He's near 6. Won a pot vs villain with A9s vs his KT when he bet the AKx flop and called my river VALUETOWN bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

[Peter Harris]

comments in white:

<font color="white">i was not entirely sure about the river call, but figured the turn was a more important street. I don't think a concensus has been reached on whether the turn check is a good thing - given that most people are saying "fold river" i suppose that it looks like bet turn, fold to c/r, if called check river behind is the premium line.

FWIW, i went with the read of villain in the hand I played with him earlier (when he bet 2nd pair on flop and called a river bet) and called. Villain showed JTo for 2nd pair and MHIG. Maybe an anomaly</font>

[chris216]

Why does everyone think a call on the river is bad? Couldn't he easily have a king or jack? I think you will see KQ, KT, K9, J9,... quite a bit. I only play NL25 myself so someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I would play the hand the exact same way.