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Old 05-04-2007, 05:30 AM
marsus marsus is offline
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Default $27: Stealraise on the Button with A2 getting reraised

Hi,

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2515)
UTG+1 (t3760)
CO (t895)
Hero (t2960)
SB (t1130)
BB (t2240)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t1130 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

I hate these spots. SB was a solid regular and after his reraise I get nice pot odds, but I'm probably dominated or I'm against a pocketpair. Do you call anyway or do you fold? When would you call?
Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:33 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $27: Stealraise on the Button with A2 getting reraised

If you don't call now then you should not raise, really.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: $27: Stealraise on the Button with A2 getting reraised

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If you don't call now then you should not raise, really.

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what range do you put him on here?
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: $27: Stealraise on the Button with A2 getting reraised

I think 77+ and high Aces like AT+.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: $27: Stealraise on the Button with A2 getting reraised

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I think 77+ and high Aces like AT+.

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i didnt pokerstove it, but if thats the case i cant see this being a call
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:45 AM
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Default Re: $27: Stealraise on the Button with A2 getting reraised

fold preflop
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:39 AM
EnderFFX EnderFFX is offline
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Default Re: $27: Stealraise on the Button with A2 getting reraised

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Hi,

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2515)
UTG+1 (t3760)
CO (t895)
Hero (t2960)
SB (t1130)
BB (t2240)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t1130 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

I hate these spots. SB was a solid regular and after his reraise I get nice pot odds, but I'm probably dominated or I'm against a pocketpair. Do you call anyway or do you fold? When would you call?
Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Holy [censored] is there some nit advice being thrown around here. First of all raising to 400-450 and folding is not a horrible play sometimes. If the BB is a complete pansy and won't raise without a monster, then you should be raising cause his re-raise spills what his hand is.

I agree with folding, but if you are going to raise against a regular, I think you need to raise to 600. Raising to 400 allows the SB to re-shove and make you make a lay down saving 730 chips. By raising to 600, the regular may believe that you will committ the next 530 chips anyway since the pot is already so large.

Another thing, how is your image? Have you tried this play before and had the same result? If you've shown that you can fold to a re-raise the regular may have picked up on this and may be testing you again.
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:57 AM
bluesbassman bluesbassman is offline
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Default Re: $27: Stealraise on the Button with A2 getting reraised

Since the SB only has about 7.5 BBs, you don't raise this if you aren't willing to call SB's push. Raise to 450 to let the SB know you are committed to call his push and that he has no fold equity. Open-folding, however, is probably best.

If you were HU against the SB, you would just push (or fold). You open-raise rather than push so you can fold if the BB wakes up with a hand and pushes.
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: $27: Stealraise on the Button with A2 getting reraised

Best option: fold
Good option: raise to 375-450
Bad options: raising &gt; 450 or pushing
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: $27: Stealraise on the Button with A2 getting reraised

Raise folding here is unbelievably awful. Whether I raise here is completely read dependent.
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