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Old 05-03-2007, 11:42 PM
ybother ybother is offline
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Default 50 NL - blind war, flop top pair

blind war, am I good here enough to call, anyway to play to clear up where I am in this type of hand???

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Button ($82.25)
SB ($30.95)
Hero ($69.45)
UTG ($34.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, UTG calls $2.50, Button folds.

Turn: ($8.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, UTG calls $5.

River: ($18.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $25.75</font>, Hero ????
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:45 PM
CaseS87 CaseS87 is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL - blind war, flop top pair

T9 is basically never good. Your $10 river bet is basically a bluff.
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL - blind war, flop top pair

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T9 is basically never good. Your $10 river bet is basically a bluff.

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looks like a value bet to me.

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I think I'd check this river and call a reasonable bet. As played I'd probably let it go.

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i don't love cc this river. what are you putting him on, a 7? if i checked, i'd probably only call a very small bet.

op, i think your play is fine, but i'd probably bet a little bigger on every street. now fold.
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - blind war, flop top pair

It's a bluff because worse hands will rarely ever call and some better hands might fold.

I like c/c if he's aggressive, c/f if he's passive
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - blind war, flop top pair

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It's a bluff because worse hands will rarely ever call and some better hands might fold.

I like c/c if he's aggressive, c/f if he's passive

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better hands might fold? hahahahaha.

can someone explain the logic behind cc here? it's just to snap off a 7, right? do we think villain might value bet a worse hand?
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - blind war, flop top pair

c/f c/c the turn
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - blind war, flop top pair

fwiw, villain is 40/17/3.5, over 70 hands
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Old 05-04-2007, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - blind war, flop top pair

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It's a bluff because worse hands will rarely ever call and some better hands might fold.

I like c/c if he's aggressive, c/f if he's passive

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better hands might fold? hahahahaha.

can someone explain the logic behind cc here? it's just to snap off a 7, right? do we think villain might value bet a worse hand?

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If villain is weak he might fold a j9 or q9 but I doubt it.

The question of river check or bet comes down to how often he calls with worse compared to how often he bluffs. If you think he will bluff more often than he'll call with A8 for instance than checking is better. Switch it around where he will never bluff but always call with A8 than betting is the better choice. I don't see many worse hands calling, but I don't think villain is bluffing too often either so the cheaper of the two options is to check as he will often check behind.
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL - blind war, flop top pair

I think I'd check this river and call a reasonable bet. As played I'd probably let it go.
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