The rare: The river three bet bluff

aejones · #1 04-29-2007, 12:35 AM

Villian is BearGarden on FTP.

He randomly asked me to play HU a few weeks ago and we've played a few short sessions. He almost never 3-bets preflop, in general his bet sizes are indicative of the strength of his hands, but he's not terrible. Hard to tell from HU, but I'd say he's a winner and pretty aggro.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (2 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($1453)
Hero ($1482)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $6.
BB raises to $15, Hero (poster) calls $12.

Flop: ($33) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn: ($33) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $30, BB calls $30.

River: ($93) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $66, BB raises to $162, Hero raises to $600,

catcher193 · #2 04-29-2007, 12:51 AM

your only getting called by a set of 5's or when he puts you on a bluff, decent spot really.
Slowplaying has just become so uncommon, so he knows that you know he never has a big hand on this flop.
I'm not sure how he expects you to react, or if he is even capable to put this thinking into action.

KingGordy · #3 04-29-2007, 01:07 AM

I think his most likely hand here is aces up. So if you think he can fold that I like it.

catcher193 · #4 04-29-2007, 01:13 AM

A5, A2, 55, 34
I think he folds his aces up combinations.

FionnMac · #5 04-29-2007, 01:41 AM

seems good, i like it even more if he can fold a weak 2 pair (A-2, A-5).

aejones, what was the logic behind the initial river bet? i dont think he ever has a better hand that folds to the initial $66 bet bet, so it must have been either a value/blocker bet or you were setting him up for 3-bet bluff crazeeeness..?

ipokeder · #6 04-29-2007, 01:42 AM

it was obv value and then he randomly decided that he might be able to make him fold if he threw lots of money at him

HedonismBot · #7 04-29-2007, 01:33 PM

These get called way too much if you have a laggy image I think, unless the 3 bet is huge.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($818)
Hero ($870)
MP ($819.75)
Button ($1969.95)
SB ($594)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $24, 1 fold, Button calls $24, 2 folds.

Flop: ($57) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $36, Button calls $36.

Turn: ($129) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $96, Button calls $96.

River: ($321) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $111, Button raises to $222, Hero raises to $714, Button calls $492.

Final Pot: $1749

Results in white below: 
Hero has 5h 4h (one pair, aces).
Button has 8c As (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Button wins $1749.

aejones · #8 04-29-2007, 01:37 PM

Yea but I made a legit sized bet on the river; also, your villian minrasied you so he's also a donk, v different.

Cool_Hwip · #9 04-29-2007, 01:43 PM

I kinda like it but wouldn't try to pull it against BG. I wouldn't be to surprised if he called you with aces up.

MYNAMEIZGREG · #10 04-29-2007, 02:40 PM

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I kinda like it but wouldn't try to pull it against BG. I wouldn't be to surprised if he called you with aces up.

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Jones, yea it's fine but you know this already, so thanks for the brag post?