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Cookies Powerlifting Log
Could be fun to see if I could get any input on my training here...
All numbers will be in kilogram Stats Age: 21 BW: 90'ish Raw maxes Squat: 135 Bench: 115 Deadlift: 170 or 172,5, cant remember Training maxes equipped Squat: 210 to parallel Bench: 170 Deadlift: 190 Competition maxes Squat: 180 Bench: 155 Deadlift: 180 Im competing in DSF which is part of IPF. My main goal with my training is to get a danish junior record in the bench at some point, hopefully. Need to beat 195 in the weight class Im in now. but only need to top 180 in the 82,5 kg class. My training so far this week Monday Fully equipped squat (suit, belt, wraps...) 3x150 far from under parallel 2x170 closer 1x185 Good lift 1x200 Tighter knee wraps, far from under. Bench 3x80 1x100 1x110 0x120 7 boards 3x120 3x140 Wedneysday Bench + chains + 5 boards 5x80 5x90 3x100 3x110 3x120 3x3x110 same setup, but with a bit shorter chains 3x95 3x100 3x105 Chest Supported Rows 7x8x35 Facepulls 3x15x15 2 sets of light curls |
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Re: Cookies Powerlifting Log
I don't know if you're strong enough to have to worry about bands/chains/etc. Usually its best to stick to the simplest method that gets gains.
Sick skillz with squat suit and shirt BTW. |
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Re: Cookies Powerlifting Log
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I don't know if you're strong enough to have to worry about bands/chains/etc. Usually its best to stick to the simplest method that gets gains. Sick skillz with squat suit and shirt BTW. [/ QUOTE ] durka durka durka "All numbers will be in kilogram"[sic] Thremp, multiply by 2.2 to convert to pounds and then suggest that the OP is too weak in the weight class he is in to use more advanced methods such as bands and chains. Also let me know when you put up those numbers. OP, Nice log... I think its a welcome addition, in contrast to the other numerous training logs, to have different goals than most other posters in it for weight management, etc. |
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Re: Cookies Powerlifting Log
Umm...
Here's in terms of BW: Squat: 1.5x Bench: 1.27x Deadlift: 1.88x BW: 198 Me: Squat: 1.37x Bench: 1.19x Deadlift: 2.02x BW: 171 Guids (guesstimation since I don't wanna look it up): Squat: ~2.1x Bench: ~1.5x Deadlift: ~3x If you look at his total compared to mine and adjusted for weight class (he's not absurdly heavy so at this level its fairly linear), you can clearly see his total of 4.65xBW is not much different from mine of 4.58xBW Obviously he needs to become skilled with his gear, which makes it necessary to do some of the activities such as board presses etc, but it seems his base strength is a little low to go fully toward the westside for methodology. Cookie, I didn't mean to dissuade you from putting a log etc, but you're getting absurd gains from your gear and it seems you likely could work on your raw stuff and build up quicker than you could working on more PL specific stuff with your shirts etc on. I still can't get over the 50ish% gains your gear is giving you. Wow. |
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Re: Cookies Powerlifting Log
In competition how low do you have to go on squats to get credit?
And from your post I think you aren't even going past parallel??? Why not train past parallel and if you need to cheat on competition day, do so. Also, does that equipment alter your form? Does it change the amount certain muscles are used in some way? |
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Re: Cookies Powerlifting Log
TBK,
1) Parallel. 2/3) He can handle. 4) Yes. 5) Yes. |
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Re: Cookies Powerlifting Log
Thremp,
-OP's age is 21... I do not think I would be off in wagering that the OP does not have decades of serious training under his belt; as such those numbers are more impressive -OP's data... I understand the increases related to wearing a suit, etc but 50%... I am curious when he last maxed out raw. I felt his comment with regards to not remembering the exact deadlift raw supported this that very possibly it has been some time (and the suit, as with anyone, may be something of a placebo; he may be unwilling to push without it) -I am aware of no magical bench total at which point band/chain work cross into being acceptable. Do you have such a number? -And again as per my comments above. His squat and deadlift are not even close in comparison to a pretty impressive bench (competition/geared numbers I am refering to). OP was talking about focusing on benching (not that I agree with that concept or think that he couldnt improve weaker areas; deadlift). You are again giving personal advice and opinions to individuals who lift more than you and likely have more experience in powerlifting than you. OP, Again, thanks for posting this. I am curious as to your height, last time you went without any gear for maxs on these lifts, and the ammount of time you have been training. Regardless congrats. With respect to information please continue posting here (I'd like to read your log especially immediately before a competition) but I feel most powerlifting forums would offer more quality advice on this less general subject. |
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Re: Cookies Powerlifting Log
Rearden,
1) I'm 22. Your comments reinforce why he shouldn't be on this program not for it. 2) Its true, regardless they're rather low. 3) Neither am I, but I assume most people are able to achieve a larger bench before specialization. 4) Once again lifting more is pretty immaterial yet you continue to bring up straw man arguments. I showed above how much stronger he was than me vs someone who is slightly older and competed in powerlifting. As an aside. If you want to focus on purely bench, metal militia is likely a better source than EliteFTS or Westside. |
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Re: Cookies Powerlifting Log
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3) Neither am I, but I assume most people are able to achieve a larger bench before specialization. As an aside. If you want to focus on purely bench, metal militia is likely a better source than EliteFTS or Westside. [/ QUOTE ] As regards to RAW, the sesion ends in 3 weeks, after that all the equipment will be trown away for a couple of month for some good ol' basis training. Metal militia is by all means awesome, I hate its a 2 day a week thing though... Did it for some time |
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Re: Cookies Powerlifting Log
You deadlift 170kg/374lb and you are training with equipment/suits/bands/chains? That is beyond ridiculous. Seriously, get your RAW numbers way way up. Like, deadlift at least 230kg+ at your BW.
This is like doing calculus before knowing any algebra. |
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