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Old 04-21-2007, 12:47 PM
Donkey Kong Donkey Kong is offline
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This table was extremely loose. All the others had a VPIP of 50-80! and PFR ranging from 0-35. They were even betting and raising postflop with crappy hands.
I've been taking a lot of beats lately (catching nut flush to get rivered by board pairing, having top set turn to a boat and lose to quads and crap like that all the time). I guess my confidence just isnt where it should be. Please correct my play on all streets. I think I'm turning into a weak-tight losah. On to the hand:

Cryptologic
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: £0.35/£0.7
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Donkey Kong is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, Donkey Kong calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Donkey Kong calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (15SB, 5 players)
SB checks, Donkey Kong checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Donkey Kong calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10BB, 5 players)
SB checks, Donkey Kong checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $2.05</font>, Donkey Kong calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (24.64BB, 4 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 24.64BB)
Donkey Kong ??
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:48 PM
BigBadBabar BigBadBabar is offline
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we got there. bet and see what happens.
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Old 04-21-2007, 01:01 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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raise the flop for value!

donking the river looks about right since a c/r faces utg with 2 and gets you 3bet if co has a boat.
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Old 04-21-2007, 01:49 PM
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raise the flop for value!

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Donk or c/r? I guess either would be a lot better than what I did...
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:03 AM
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raise the flop for value!

donking the river looks about right since a c/r faces utg with 2 and gets you 3bet if co has a boat.

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I like the flop.

Big pot means people will pay off light, so go ahead and bet here. If someone raises you can make a judgement as to whether or not to three-bet. Generally if one of the callers raises, three-bet, but if the pfr raises, call.
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:05 AM
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cr'ing river may be best... these guys are pretty aggro, but the guy that fired the turn raise has stopped betting, so I think betting now is good.
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Old 04-22-2007, 01:31 AM
paulw86 paulw86 is offline
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easy raise for value on the flop. If UTG+1 reraises, your 3 loose opponents have enough odds to call down any weak draws anyways. Not sure if capping the flop for value would be an option though.

turn play was optimal to me. I can't think of a reason to play it any other way.

on river, just bet out, because if UTG+1 or CO has a boat, they would've capped the turn. They didn't, so even if SB did hit his jacks full, you can build a side pot. I don't think c/r is good because if UTG+1 or CO bets out when a scare card comes, it's likely you're vulnerable to a re-raise. I don't even believe they'd bet out with inferior holdings with the scare card landing.
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Old 04-21-2007, 01:22 PM
Cadence Lauren Cadence Lauren is offline
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PF is fine.

Flop is an easy raise. You have the nut flush draw against 4 players. The only hand you are worried about given the action is KK from the UTG+1, but he could have been 3-betting AA, QQ, JJ, or AK, too, and that's only if he's playing TAG, which he's not. Your pot equity is likely over 30%, even with the paired board. Get your money in now. (How do people feel about a bet/reraise here?)

Turn is standard.

River is bet/call, at least. I can find a bet/reraise here based on the turn action--with the field trapped, you would expect a turn cap from a boat, no?
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Old 04-21-2007, 01:50 PM
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No one here has a FH. I c/r. UTG has either KTs or QQ or AA, CO has AK.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:55 PM
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No one here has a FH. I c/r. UTG has either KTs or QQ or AA, CO has AK.

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Why is KK not in that range?
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