KQ in BB vs Roothlus

[LSgambler]

Villian in this hand is Roothlus. He was moved to the table about 2 orbits ago so no real reads. PokerStars (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
my stack: 4400 villian's stack: 6465
Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of 100. BB posts a blind of 200
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to 600 </font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises all-in </font>, Button calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Thoughts??

[grafyx]

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Thoughts??

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yawn

[ItalianFX]

This must be his range:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.558% 48.61% 02.95% 2343637 142266.00 { KQs }
Hand 1: 48.442% 45.49% 02.95% 2193442 142266.00 { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

to make it a good push. I think.

Is he raising preflop with a range that wide (20%)?

[grafyx]

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This must be his range:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.558% 48.61% 02.95% 2343637 142266.00 { KQs }
Hand 1: 48.442% 45.49% 02.95% 2193442 142266.00 { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

to make it a good push. I think.

Is he raising preflop with a range that wide (20%)?

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What? I have no idea what you are trying to show here, but this is obviously not correct.

[T_Nasty]

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This must be his range:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.558% 48.61% 02.95% 2343637 142266.00 { KQs }
Hand 1: 48.442% 45.49% 02.95% 2193442 142266.00 { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

to make it a good push. I think.

Is he raising preflop with a range that wide (20%)?

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There's no way to tell how wide his range is without having some background info. How have BB and SB been playing? Payout step? etc.....

And your analysis doesn't account for FE. This hand sucks, its such an easy push.

[registrar]

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This must be his range:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.558% 48.61% 02.95% 2343637 142266.00 { KQs }
Hand 1: 48.442% 45.49% 02.95% 2193442 142266.00 { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

to make it a good push. I think.

Is he raising preflop with a range that wide (20%)?

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FX,

I understand that Roothlus is tight but his button-raising range must be pretty wide. I also can't see these figures being correct. I'm pretty sure I'm loving it if he raise/ calls with the range that you're assigning him but the fact is that he's raise folding a lot here. Given our stack, calling is somewhat icky OOP and we need to be calling a shove (most unhappily) if we raise, so pushing here seems pretty standard. We're stuffed by his calling range, but he's not calling often enough for that to be the main issue.

[ItalianFX]

Well, I got the discussion going. I had a feeling I was wrong.

[LSgambler]

Yea you guys are right this hand is pretty standard but I was just trying to make sure I made the right move. First I was thinking about smooth calling but as registrar said I was gonna be OOP. And re-raising smaller amount is terrible cause it commits me to the pot

[betgo]

I would probably flat call against Roothlus. Push against anyone else.

[locutus2002]

Roothlus isn't tight.

I think ur question goes to how u play the blinds. How far ahead or behind are u willing to be when u raise.

In general, Roothlus range has to contain Kings and aces here so you are behind most of the time (because there are more aces than kings given ur holding). There are some quality Q and J, but overall u r not ahead. You have 20+XBB and there are no antes. I'd probably just call and take the flop, because I would expect this villain to call with most to all of his aces. If u have a tight image and expect a fold from many aces, then a raise is better, I'm raising to 2K and leading the flop.

Overall getting 22XBB all in pf w/ kq has to be EV-, and this is the kind of play that u won't see much live.

These questions are very game specific and u will have to work out how u will play these types of situations, vary them, and adjust for players.