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Old 04-21-2007, 04:09 AM
Dima2000123 Dima2000123 is offline
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Default $10 - AA on a dangerous board

My read: the Villain did the old "I'm thinking, I'm pained for 10 seconds, I guess I call" routine that 80% of the time means at least a set. Should I have checked the turn, and as played, should I have folded?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero (t1740)
UTG+1 (t1520)
MP1 (t2070)
MP2 (t1940)
CO (t1335)
Button (t1635)
SB (t1630)
BB (t1630)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, Button calls t300.

Turn: (t975) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t450</font>, Hero ?
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: $10 - AA on a dangerous board

bet turn and get it all in seriously ffs sdhfksjafhdjksahdfkjsahjkfhsajk $10 sng my frikkin god.
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: $10 - AA on a dangerous board

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bet turn and get it all in seriously ffs sdhfksjafhdjksahdfkjsahjkfhsajk $10 sng my frikkin god.

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This is the kind of unhelpful garbage that keeps posters like me off these boards.
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: $10 - AA on a dangerous board

I wouldn't put a lot of stock in time oriented tells. In my view, the pot is too big to fold. I'd bet something like 750 and call a shove. If he has you beat, the only way you don't get stacked is if you check-fold the turn which I think is too weak and exploitable.
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: $10 - AA on a dangerous board

How reliable do you think the tell should be (in % terms) for me to give him credit for a full boat and fold?
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:47 AM
PattdownManiac PattdownManiac is offline
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Default Re: $10 - AA on a dangerous board

Honestly I would give 0% weight to believing someone has a set because they waited a while to call. If they waited a long time and then raised that is a little more reliable. But is the person multi-tabling? Talking on aim, browsing porn, etc.
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Old 04-21-2007, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: $10 - AA on a dangerous board

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bet turn and get it all in seriously ffs sdhfksjafhdjksahdfkjsahjkfhsajk $10 sng my frikkin god.

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This is the kind of unhelpful garbage that keeps posters like me off these boards.

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This hand is really simple and standard. If you're readless and even considering folding here in a $10 sng then I don't even know what to say that can possibly help you because you're probably beyond help. Christ, just because he had a full house this one time doesn't mean he won't have Q9 99/100 times. Don't be such a whiny baby.
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:22 PM
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This hand is really simple and standard. If you're readless and even considering folding here in a $10 sng then I don't even know what to say that can possibly help you because you're probably beyond help. Christ, just because he had a full house this one time doesn't mean he won't have Q9 99/100 times. Don't be such a whiny baby.

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The point is that I'm not readless, in fact I have a read that I'm pretty positive about (and I disagree that timing tells are useless in stakes where people think they're fooling someone by min-betting with a draw or min-raising with the aces). As for my comment, there's a fine line between constructive criticism and berating someone, and you're nowhere near that fine line.
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Old 04-21-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: $10 - AA on a dangerous board

ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIN at this level you have them crushed very often
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