A crooked home game? (O/T)

cwar · #1 04-20-2007, 01:50 AM

I just busted out of a crooked home game I talked to the host on the phone and he is fairly certain. The money is locked up and we are 95% certain that we know atleast one of the mechanics. THIS IS HAPPENING NOW how do we deal with it? I proposed calling the cops and chopping the pot everyone getting their buyin back even ppl who have left. Maybe not ZOO material but this is happening now. Theres is probably close to 4-5k in the game and no rake so its legal in NY.

cwar · #2 04-20-2007, 02:09 AM

I forgot to mention one person has already cashed out about $500 from the game.

cwar · #3 04-20-2007, 02:27 AM

Oh I forgot the hand that really gave it away. The mechanic (his deal) had KK two other people had AA and they got it in preflop for $1000+ pot K on the flop.

teddyFBI · #4 04-20-2007, 02:29 AM

how much did u lose?

teddyFBI · #5 04-20-2007, 02:30 AM

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Oh I forgot the hand that really gave it away. The mechanic (his deal) had KK two other people had AA and they got it in preflop for $1000+ pot K on the flop.

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I hope you have more "proof" than this.

cwar · #6 04-20-2007, 02:37 AM

He was shuffling under the table moved seats away from the host in the game, raised preflop on his deal called a 3bet called down blind until the turn caught a gutshot vs someone elses top set. Called $150 preflop with 66 vs two allins vs someone he calls a nit all the time (everyone in the game knew one of the allins was AA) called the $450 push after the after he caught his set.

Hes a little bit of a celebrity here and he gave off a super gambler/amateurish image playing hand blinds etc seemingly sloppy with dealing even tho he has played a long time. Going back through all the hands we have played with him (about 3 long sessions) we can remember many semi-ridiculous hands on his deal. He also caught quads 3 times in a night and had a straight flush.

Furthermore I have never seen AA vs AA vs KK let alone a K on the flop and ive played about 500,000 hands. So yeah we are pretty sure. A bit of social engineering is why he got away with it for so long he had the perfect image for this.

cwar · #7 04-20-2007, 02:40 AM

Ive lost profits Ive had in the game vs hands him on his deal totalling about $600-$1000 but the total Ive lost buying in to the game the two weeks he played is only about $350. Its less about the money its just a very very [censored] feeling.

bigshowmack · #8 04-20-2007, 08:47 AM

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He was shuffling under the table

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Make up your mind buddy.

Anyone have any guesses on which NY school has a player with NBA prospects within the next two years? Since OP won't man up and say it himself?

beernutz · #9 04-20-2007, 02:24 PM

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Oh I forgot the hand that really gave it away. The mechanic (his deal) had KK two other people had AA and they got it in preflop for $1000+ pot K on the flop.

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The Kings will win that matchup more than once out of every five times. That is hardly definitive evidence.
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> http://twodimes.net/h/?z=383127
pokenum -h ah ad - as ac - kc kh
Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ad Ah 27939 2.04 306055 22.33 1036760 75.63 0.398
As Ac 27939 2.04 306055 22.33 1036760 75.63 0.398
Kc Kh 278116 20.29 1086852 79.29 5786 0.42 0.204 </pre><hr />

LeapFrog · #10 04-20-2007, 02:49 PM

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Oh I forgot the hand that really gave it away. The mechanic (his deal) had KK two other people had AA and they got it in preflop for $1000+ pot K on the flop.

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The Kings will win that matchup more than once out of every five times. That is hardly definitive evidence.
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> http://twodimes.net/h/?z=383127
pokenum -h ah ad - as ac - kc kh
Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ad Ah 27939 2.04 306055 22.33 1036760 75.63 0.398
As Ac 27939 2.04 306055 22.33 1036760 75.63 0.398
Kc Kh 278116 20.29 1086852 79.29 5786 0.42 0.204 </pre><hr />

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Yes, but what are the chances of players being dealt AA, AA, KK in an x handed game, then * .2 for KK to win -- pretty small.

On another note, using mechanics, how hard is it to setup these hands such as PP hits a set then straight on the river? Do you have to have real talent, as in David Blaine hands or what?