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Old 04-17-2007, 12:52 PM
hemstock hemstock is offline
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Default AA in rr pot. Worst flop possible

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($124.04)
UTG ($91.98)
Hero ($101.85)
CO ($101.70)
Button ($109.32)
SB ($99.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $9</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $33.5</font>, Button calls $24.50.

Flop: ($69.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

What's my plan.
Villain is an unknown but his minraise pf suggests he's your typical bad and loose party player.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: AA in rr pot. Worst flop possible

Yeah this sucks for sure, you're not beating too much of his range unfortunately, KK, KK he has 8 outs so you are like a 2 to 1 fav. approx. just about the rest of his range he's got you dead to two outs or runners. I would be cursing big time.

Edit: So in other words, I guess you check/fold, unless you think he is bad enough to do this with AQ and AJ or lower pocket pairs. But even then, it seems like there is a higher chance that you're beat.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:29 PM
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Board: Ts Jh Qs
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.862% 42.07% 00.79% 6247 118.00 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 57.138% 56.34% 00.79% 8367 118.00 { KK-TT }

don't fold.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:39 PM
Abramovic Abramovic is offline
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Default Re: AA in rr pot. Worst flop possible

KK has 6 outs here only.

Excellent use of Pokerstove by Twisted.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:39 PM
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Board: Qs Jh Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.425% 26.88% 04.54% 6387 1079.50 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 68.575% 64.03% 04.54% 15214 1079.50 { AdAs, KK-TT, AKs, AKo }

Yeah, c/f ?
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: AA in rr pot. Worst flop possible

Wow, I had almost the same hand with 2 callers, the AxAs and an 8s instead of Ts and I was thoroughly berated for not leading the flop.

I like c/c, re-eval the turn.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:17 PM
TwistedEcho TwistedEcho is offline
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Default Re: AA in rr pot. Worst flop possible

[ QUOTE ]
Wow, I had almost the same hand with 2 callers, the AxAs and an 8s instead of Ts and I was thoroughly berated for not leading the flop.

I like c/c, re-eval the turn.

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This was 4bet, your hand was 3bet vs a button raise/sb caller. Totally different.

Btw just get allin here, i meant if we include AK and KK-TT its like barely breakeven, but he will occasionally have random other crap he couldn't fold preflop like 99, AQs etc
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: AA in rr pot. Worst flop possible

bah I think it's pretty neutral EV with the money already in the pot
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: AA in rr pot. Worst flop possible

Shove plz.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: AA in rr pot. Worst flop possible

AK must be in his range right?? If so the pokerstove numbers are much closer to what sorceror is said. If you check/call you are probably pot commited right? Maybe if you give him lower pocket pairs, 99, 88, you're looking a little better.

It seems fairly close, I guess it depends on whether you mind going broke for a close decision.
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