NL50: KK in SB, would you call?

flyerr · #1 04-14-2007, 02:30 PM

Hello, my first hand posting in 2+2 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

No reads on villan only 20 hands. This was the third time in a row that he open-raised on the button when folded to him.
villain was 30/10/2 from those hands...

Would you guys call this flop shove?

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($48.40)
Hero ($49.90)
BB ($50.83)
UTG ($45)
MP ($81.35)
CO ($97.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, Button raises to $11.5, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($23.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $12, Button raises to $36.9 (All-In), Hero ??

thac · #2 04-14-2007, 02:33 PM

Sure, you're getting 3:1 and it's a 4-bet pot preflop (I probably just stick it in preflop) If you don't wanna call this raise, don't bet the flop.

SykoraG · #3 04-14-2007, 02:34 PM

Generally if I'm not pushing to a 4bet with Kings only 100BB deep, then I definately push any flop without an ace. Get it in.

Better Than U · #4 04-14-2007, 02:35 PM

Well one side of the coin you beat AJ/QQ on the other side of that coin he doesn't usually have those hands. Tough spot but I never fold. That doesn't mean calling is right though because I don't think it is.

thac · #5 04-14-2007, 02:38 PM

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Well one side of the coin you beat AJ/QQ on the other side of that coin he doesn't usually have those hands. Tough spot but I never fold. That doesn't mean calling is right though because I don't think it is.

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Exactly.. you got in a sticky situation with your actions earlier in the hand. This call is almost necessary given how much is in the pot and how little you have to call, but I don't like it.

kolotoure · #6 04-14-2007, 02:39 PM

I think this is AA/QQ

flyerr · #7 04-14-2007, 02:42 PM

Tough spot indeed. I figure he would re-raise me PF in position with QQ but would also with AA. maybe i should'nt lead bet on the flop for 1/2 pot...

Better Than U · #8 04-14-2007, 02:43 PM

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I think this is AA/QQ

[/ QUOTE ]FWIW this is exactly what I think but add in a chance of JJ and TT and it's a terrible call.

kolotoure · #9 04-14-2007, 02:45 PM

and I think he has AA a lot more then QQ

Jouster777 · #10 04-14-2007, 02:49 PM

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I think this is AA/QQ

[/ QUOTE ]FWIW this is exactly what I think but add in a chance of JJ and TT and it's a terrible call.

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, even if you add JJ and TT its still a call:
AA/TT/JJ = 12 combos
QQ = 6 combos

Odds we beat his range: 1:2
Pot odds: ~3:1