a couple hands from a couple weeks ago

[newhizzle]

im bored and this forum has been kinda [censored] lately, for some reason just thought of these hands, they might be interesting, probably played other interesting ones more recently but just thought of these anyway

first one is from an animal shorthanded 1/2 game at commerce, UTG is some donk from the 40/80 who has been foiling my master plan of 3-betting david baker like every hand by cold/calling 3 like every hand, he seemed capable of laying down marginal holdings when the heat is put on him, otherwise hes pure filthy animal

SB is david baker, probably one of the more solid 1/2 regulars, me him and freddy have been playing super animal all night though, ive been running sick hot and have been 3-betting the [censored] out of david and flopping 2 pair a lot, since the 40 donk sat down ive been running a bit colder

anyway, UTG limps, folds to david who completes, i check T4hh in the BB

flop is 79J with 1 heart

david checks, i check, 40 donk bets, david calls and makes a comment making it seem like hes drawing, i call

turn is the ace of hearts

check, check, bet, david calls, i raise, call, call

river is some blank, check, i bet


second is from a 2/4 game at commerce that we were playing with quarter chips, im UTG i think probly like 4ish handed, yakov is in the small blind and a very straight forward player i think named bert is in the big blind, this time david has position on me, so this session hasnt been quite as fun as the last one, me and yakov have a lot of history, usually involving me giving him all the free money he wants trying to do dumb [censored] to outplay him, but he dosent matter too much in this hand

i open A7o, yakov calls in the small blind, bert( very straightforward and tight player, hes made some really bad folds and shown them) calls in the big blind

flop is something like 743 i think (a 7 and 2 low cards, this is close enough) with a 2 flush, lets say diamonds for the purposes of discussion

i think i remember the action right, but could be wrong, lets assume its right anyway, yakov bets out, bert calls, i raise, yakov calls, bert 3-bets, i 4 bet, yakov folds, bert calls

turn is a blank

check, check

river is the ace of diamonds

bert bets, i think for a minute and raise planning to insta-muck to a 3-bet

[Heir_Aparent]

dont really like hand 2. its obviously an easy fold to a 3bet, but i dont see much value at all in raising. he could have been going for CR on turn with a set, obviously the donk lead could have meant flush draw and that hit too. Theres just not enuff hands in his range that are worse than top two to make this raise profitable.

[stinkypete]

i don't like the river raise in hand 2 either. you're probably ahead most of the time, but since 2 pair isn't that likely on a 743 flop, you're probably beat more than half the time when he calls or raises. since he's very straightforward i assume he's not playing hands like pair + gutshot that fast on the flop, and even if he was, why would he ever bet/call that river with them?

so unless he has 2 pair, there's no value in raising, and he probably doesn't have 2 pair all that often. would he call preflop with hands like 74o, 73s, 43o?

[PokerBob]

i think i'd just give up on the flop in hand 1. the pot is small and i am oop and i don't have much. i suppose the turn is OK if UTG is really that horrible. if he can read hands at all though, he's gotta know you don't have anything. i suspect david knows you don't, and may call the river if he makes a pair.

why did you check the turn in hand 2? i think raising that river is a mistake. he either has you crucified or has air.

[mike l.]

i dont like hand 1 because i dont think you win on the river. dont c/r the turn and then go ahead and c/f the river. boring but the best line esp. if youve been "animal" (gay ass term btw) lately.

as for the second hand i like it.

[PokerBob]

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as for the second hand i like it.

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is the river raise for value, or as a bluff?

[drbk2]

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as for the second hand i like it.

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is the river raise for value, or as a bluff?

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How can this river raise be a bluff?

The first hand I think you're being predictably unpredictable. Given your image at the table I think even a bad 40 80 donk (I'm one of them so I know) will think there is a good possibility you have the hand that you have and look you up.

The second hand is very interesting. Can't the big blind have like 88 or 99 here or even a worse 7? I understand he's really straightforward but every player reaches his limit in getting raised and reraised every street. What's wrong with betting the turn and folding to a checkraise from this player?

[PokerBob]

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How can this river raise be a bluff?


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after checking the turn after putting in the last aggression on the flop, he played his hand like he had KQdd or something.

[Your Mom]

wtf does animal even mean? why does everyone here try to invent new terms?

[mike l.]

value town. he has top two right? or did i misread again?

my experience is that even tight straightfwd guys playing short 1-2 mix it up more than you would expect. the guy could have just an ace, a worse two pair, who cares. raise-fold is a great line in this spot.