kk facing a donk and a reg both all in?

jack frost · #1 04-13-2007, 10:03 AM

Sb is reg here and I see him at stars 100 nl off and on. I am not very impressed with his play and I have already stacked him once this session where he went broke with A high. The cutt off is your typical 40/6 ding dong.When he called the donks all in I thought for sure he knew I had a big pp and he thought forever before pushing. I figured he must atleast a set or played AA like crap and now decided to wake up. I have him at 17/12 over 700 hands.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($99.20)
MP2 ($75.95)
CO ($39.55)
Button ($44)
SB ($105.35)
BB ($16.20)
Hero ($155.05)
UTG+1 ($71.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, CO (poster) calls $4, 1 fold, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($16) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, CO raises to $34.55, SB raises to $100.35, Hero folds.

Turn: ($160.90) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($160.90) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $160.90

Jurrr · #2 04-13-2007, 10:08 AM

Good fold IMHO.

Renton · #3 04-13-2007, 10:20 AM

extremely easy fold.

LBK · #4 04-13-2007, 10:40 AM

ALL YOU CAN EAT BABY. How is this an "easy fold"? Please. They could easily have AJ here. The turn may have killed you but you could be good there on the flop with KK on that flop. Hell, they could have QQ.

Jurrr · #5 04-13-2007, 10:44 AM

How about you save your trolling until you've played futuredoc?

Renton · #6 04-13-2007, 10:56 AM

yes, they obviously both have an ace and a jack.

jack frost · #7 04-13-2007, 10:09 AM

Here is the hand a little while before this where he stacked off to me. My mini raise wasn't a donk bet. Did this to make him think I was trying a weak steal and it seemed to have worked and disguised my set.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($99.50)
MP2 ($95.40)
MP3 ($93.25)
CO ($100)
Button ($97.50)
SB ($175.45)
Hero ($99.50)
UTG ($55.75)
UTG+1 ($109.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
6 folds, Button raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $8, Hero raises to $16, Button raises to $55, Hero calls $39.

Turn: ($118.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $38.5 (All-In), Hero calls $38.50.

River: ($195.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $195.50

Tofu_boy · #8 04-13-2007, 05:44 PM

easy fold flop here for me. Looklike 1 with set here.

Fonkey123 · #9 04-13-2007, 06:17 PM

I don't think this is as clear cut as some people are making it. CO had less than half stack, he could have WAY less than even AJ. He could have like KT or some complete trash. I'm more worried about the SB. I normally don't see the SB here go batshit crazy with AJ/KQ here. This is more like JT,JJ,TT,or I think his most common holding 33. I think this is definitely a fold, but if you did in fact call I wouldn't think it absolutely atrocious cuz people just play terribly.

jack frost · #10 04-13-2007, 06:26 PM

Thinking more about it I think that if Ryan has a set here he is smooth calling and hoping for me to push or call behind him and get it in on turn. Why would you want to push someone out you think you have beat? What are you putting me on he Ryan? I have had this situation 2 times in last few days and both of those times the other guy called and he had a set. If I would have thought through this more I think I would have called this. Afterhis reraise I really think his range is narrowed to QQ or AA. What do you think about this line of thinking Renton?