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200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)
Villain is 23/18/3. I'm about the same.
After he almost timed out making the turn call, I put him on some sort of overpair (not sure how big though). So, is this a huge spew, or an actually decent time to bluff? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) UTG ($121) MP ($218) CO ($178.85) Hero ($677.25) SB ($205.10) BB ($209.15) Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $14</font>, Hero calls $14. Turn: ($47) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $33</font>, MP calls $33. River: ($113) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font> |
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Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)
Preflop is meh imo. I don't think he's folding much on the river since the 9 doesn't really change much.
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Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)
9 doesn't change anything BUT this isn't a bad line as you are easily repping 45/65/76/etc. he may have called turn to fold river since most people give up on river if FOS.
i don't mind this, but preflop is definitely meh |
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Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)
In my experience, I'm getting looked up with TT+ all day on the river. If you think villain can make the laydown, then its probably fine.
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Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)
preflop is bad especially if you arent comfortable messing around postflop.
id just check the river, i think you are good vs missed spades often, i dont think villains turn line looks like an overpair at all. |
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Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)
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id just check the river, i think you are good vs missed spades often, i dont think villains turn line looks like an overpair at all. [/ QUOTE ] yah i meant to say this too. a good portion of the hands you fold out you beat anyway. but a lot of people play weak top pair hands like this... |
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Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)
All,
preflop is definitely meh, but I don't think it's horrible. I think a lot of the value in the bluff comes from the fact that most people expect me to give up if I'm FOS (like CAterp said). Spades are definitely a part of his range, but I'd be sick if I checked it down and he showed that he randomly paired his spade draw. Overall, I think my line is scary and he doesn't have a strong enough hand to call it down. If you disagree, why? |
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Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)
I like this if you are quite sure that he has an overpair through a read of some sort. Most of hero's feasible one pair hands on the flop improved to two pair or better by the river (45, 56, 66, 76, etc). I feel like the only time that you might have air here is whiffed spades and an Axss like you have.
However, I dont necessarily think his line is always repping an overpair. He might have something like 67 78 and maybe whiffed spades. All in all, i think your line is good considering your preflop call and your flop call. |
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Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)
yuck check turn i think your hand has pretty good sd value, he could easily be giving up after cbetting. lots of people bet lots of flops when they are called pf and oop on the flop. this doesn't automatically mean he has an overpair imo.
pf is ok, i usually fold but sometimes call |
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Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)
Does your play change in the following scenario?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) UTG ($121) MP ($218) CO ($178.85) Hero ($677.25) SB ($205.10) BB ($209.15) Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $14</font>, Hero calls $14. Turn: ($47) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $33</font>, MP calls $33. River: ($113) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font> |
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