show me what to do - nl200

n1nj4.br · #1 04-11-2007, 07:44 AM

villian is tag (tight side) and no history.

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
4 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

SB: $160.60
Hero (BB): $212.30
UTG: $163.40
BTN: $406.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, BTN raises to $8, SB folds, Hero raises to $28, BTN calls $20

Flop: ($54) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero?

good_gamble · #2 04-11-2007, 07:50 AM

Bet $45, fold to raise and give up if called unless turn is club or 5 (in which case shove). If turn is red T, I prolly check.

Simo_8ball · #3 04-11-2007, 07:52 AM

That isn't a good flop for you because it hits a large proportion of his expected range.

Your draw isn't too strong either because you don't want a spade to come, and the 10 gives you the ignorant end. Even the three offsuit 5's don't give you the nuts.

Still, I would take a bet/fold line of about $40.

Womble · #4 04-11-2007, 08:03 AM

If he is tight then why 3bet PF?

I b/f here but dont know if that is right

Hope your not considering c/c though

TwistedEcho · #5 04-11-2007, 08:09 AM

Just because he raised the button and you have some semiplayable hand doesn't mean you have to checkraise. Preflop you can just fold.

Having not folded, bet whatever your normal amount here is ~45 for me and if he pushes fold, if he calls shove any 5 turn, most clubs, and check if turn is a T (Ts you should shove)

n1nj4.br · #6 04-11-2007, 08:17 AM

There's nothing wrong with pf, get over it.

How bad is betting pot and calling shove?

TwistedEcho · #7 04-11-2007, 08:19 AM

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lol i 3bet as much as the anyone at 200nl, but when you give a read someone is tight, i don't get why you decide to repop. I mean if you posted villian is multitabling tag with 22/18/3 stats or whatever it makes more sense, but you are going to have to play OOP with a tricky hand. Unless you think hes going to just fold preflop enough of the time, its not worth it.

TwistedEcho · #8 04-11-2007, 08:23 AM

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its almost certainly -EV, but looks pretty close actually. Put him on a range and pokerstove it.

Ginge · #9 04-11-2007, 09:16 AM

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My guess is def -EV. Going for a cr all in is a much better option IMO. I prob just bet-fold though.

pdoran10 · #10 04-11-2007, 10:25 AM

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bad. i bet fold, unless i missed something with stack sizes when i looked quickly at the hand.

also. i know everyone is going to hate this, but can we c/c peel one to hit a disguised straight. I mean JJ and 1010 are the only hands in a decent player's range here that we arent going to get blown off our hand on the flop with.