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Old 04-10-2007, 12:19 PM
inspir3d inspir3d is offline
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Default 50NL, 77 makes Full House on the River, Straight and Flush on board

I think I could have played this hand somewhat better. Please advise.

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.25/$0.50 Blinds
10 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $38.44
<font color="black">BB: $15.24</font>
<u>UTG: $38.45</u>
UTG+1: $21.25
UTG+2: $62.25
MP1: $47
MP2: $26.05
<u>Hero (MP3): $54.15</u>
<font color="black">CO: $42.75</font>
BTN: $96.90

CO posts $0.75
<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.75, 10 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.50, CO checks, 2 folds, BB checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($2.50, 4 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $1.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, BB folds, UTG calls $2.50

<font color="black">Turn:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($14.50, 3 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks

<font color="black">River:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($14.50, 3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $5.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $41</font> (puts opponents all-in)
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:27 PM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: 50NL, 77 makes Full House on the River, Straight and Flush on board

I don't think you'll make as much money with this bet against thinking opponents. You are repping 2-pair or a set on the flop (and turn). I'm a nit, but if I didn't have a fh here, I'd fold. I think a smaller raise will make you more money.

If someone does have a higher full house, you are losing your stack regardless, but if they don't have one, I want as much as I can get.
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, 77 makes Full House on the River, Straight and Flush on board

how much to raise? to $15?

and is it correct to check the turn?
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, 77 makes Full House on the River, Straight and Flush on board

I'm no expert, but I'd probably raise to $15 or so. Don't know if it's correct, but I would have checked this turn, too. (I wish I could say I would have bet it, but the straight is so easily out there with limpers, and as I said, I'm a nit.)

I agree with raising pre, btw.
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, 77 makes Full House on the River, Straight and Flush on board

Juu how much would u bet on the turn, relative to the pot? and if u bet would u call an all-in?
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, 77 makes Full House on the River, Straight and Flush on boar

Arrgh probably $10 on the turn and for all-in I'm calling if both of those guys are calling and folding if one of them folds maybe.

Tough spot; I think it depends on whether they will call a flop bet with a gutshot and/or would slowplay a straight on a 2-flush flop/turn.

You gave no reads.
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, 77 makes Full House on the River, Straight and Flush on board

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I'm no expert, but I'd probably raise to $15 or so. Don't know if it's correct, but I would have checked this turn, too. (I wish I could say I would have bet it, but the straight is so easily out there with limpers, and as I said, I'm a nit.)

I agree with raising pre, btw.

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Checking the turn and raising to $15 on the river is good.

Limping is better preflop UTG though, you don't want to face a reraise behind you.
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, 77 makes Full House on the River, Straight and Flush on boar

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Limping is better preflop UTG though, you don't want to face a reraise behind you.

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Hero is not UTG, he's in the hijack.

Raise preflop.

Turn and river are read dependant. Since you don't have reads, I'd make the simple, reliable plays. Check turn (call if you have odds) and raise river ($15 is fine). If you had reads you could consider betting turn (ie vs bad calling stations) or pushing river (ie vs donkeys).
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, 77 makes Full House on the River, Straight and Flush on boar

Raise pre, turn is a tough card; it puts a 4-straight on the board but I don't think it completes many obvious straight draws except 66.

Spew monkey that I am I bet turn. They could both be on FDs or smth.

Given river completes push I don't mind river.
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: 50NL, 77 makes Full House on the River, Straight and Flush on boar

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Raise pre, turn is a tough card; it puts a 4-straight on the board but I don't think it completes many obvious straight draws except 66.

Spew monkey that I am I bet turn. They could both be on FDs or smth.

Given river completes push I don't mind river.

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really can't see how betting into a 4 straight into two opponents is a good choice...sure, you could be making one of them pay for their draw, but it's more than likely that you're only drawing to 10 outs.

i can understand the play when the villain is pretty short and you're not going to fold anyways, but if villain's are deep, and they push your raise, you have to fold.
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