First limit play in a while - 10/20 JJ, 26BB pot final

[PokerAmateur4]

Thoughts on this one please? Haven't played limit in a while. MP 37/11 doesn't seem to really bet when he doesn't have a respectable hand, but he is too loose.

PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (24 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (22 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 folds.

River: (24 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 26 BB

[cgrohman]

1.) Lead the Flop.
2.) You beat nothing on the river.

[rafiki]

If Mp2 is capping the flop and betting the turn, I can't picture a holding he can have that you beat (as mentioned). something is bugging me about the flop, I'm trying to think about how much we give up by folding somewhere in there. Really depends on all reads.

[Utah]

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If Mp2 is capping the flop and betting the turn, I can't picture a holding he can have that you beat (as mentioned). something is bugging me about the flop, I'm trying to think about how much we give up by folding somewhere in there. Really depends on all reads.

[/ QUOTE ]Are you suggesting hero folds the river? I can't imagine laying down here with 24bb in the pot, especially since the turn wasn't raised. I think you see something screwy here where you win at least 1 in 24 times.

[rafiki]

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If Mp2 is capping the flop and betting the turn, I can't picture a holding he can have that you beat (as mentioned). something is bugging me about the flop, I'm trying to think about how much we give up by folding somewhere in there. Really depends on all reads.

[/ QUOTE ]Are you suggesting hero folds the river? I can't imagine laying down here with 24bb in the pot, especially since the turn wasn't raised. I think you see something screwy here where you win at least 1 in 24 times.

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if 1 in 24 he has 10/10, then fair enough.

[benwood]

Fold flop.

[cgrohman]

I can't. Ask yourself why OP called the turn.

[poker1O1]

definitely fold flop. our backdoor spade draw might tie us to a pot w/ a 2nd best draw. even if we are ahead, which is doubtful, we'll likely have to dodge an A and a K.

[cgrohman]

Me too, I dont see where he can though unless he knows the intial raiser is going to 3 bet.

[PokerAmateur4]

"1.) Lead the Flop."
What did everyone think of this, why would I do that? Aren't I likely against QQ+?