50 NL...what to do with bottom 2 pair here...

ungar2000 · #1 04-03-2007, 04:34 PM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $5.5</font>.

No real stats/reads. I thought my UTG raise with 45s would get some more respect as I was playing more Taggy.

Raise (if so to how much), call or fold here?

thanks

wikemang · #2 04-03-2007, 04:38 PM

Stack sizes?

ungar2000 · #3 04-03-2007, 04:42 PM

sorry...stack sizes: all players involved have a full buyin of 50.00

BevillTheDevil · #4 04-03-2007, 04:54 PM

as long as you have had a pretty tight image UTG raise with 45s is OK...against an uknown id probably raise to like $17 and look to get it AI

UncleSalty · #5 04-03-2007, 04:49 PM

(Grunching, and I suck at poker

Seems like a raise of $15 will push button out of the pot and isolate BB. He's gotta have A8 or an overpair more often than 76 or a set.

Without a read I think I would call a push too. Again, I think it's more likely a slowplayed big pair or some other nonsense that you beat.

wikemang · #6 04-03-2007, 04:51 PM

Raise to 20 call shove

KEW · #7 04-03-2007, 04:54 PM

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Raise to 20 call shove

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Absent a read if BB or button shoves what are we beating???? We are repping a big pair with the PFR and the raise on a ragged flop...

wikemang · #8 04-03-2007, 04:57 PM

If we're raising 45s UTG what type of flop are we looking for? I think when we flop 2 pair we got what we wanted and we should be taking it all the way. I feel like we're seeing overcards/overpairs here in most cases.

jrp_909 · #9 04-03-2007, 05:52 PM

Raise to 12$-15$. Call an all-in or push all-in if you get reraies. On the turn push all-in. Raising UTG with 45, this is one of the best flops you're looking for, right?

KEW · #10 04-03-2007, 04:52 PM

Do not like the PFR w/54 from UTG...Raise the flop donk to $15...I most likely fold to a shove from either BB or button..