But I know he's weak!

DLizzle · #1 04-03-2007, 04:12 PM

30 left in some 20+2 10k guarantee. I've been pretty active, made a few raises and some reraises lately. When I raised the button here, I felt like one of the blinds was probably gonna resteal, because they definetly wouldn't believe me.

So I feel like either I should raise and be willing to call a shove or just fold. Is this a bad way to think? My hand might just be too weak against his range to call, its kinda borderline to me I'm not too great with the math, I would really love to know what kind of range he needs to have to call here with price I'm getting.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero (t45687)
SB (t90706)
BB (t33775)
UTG (t47654)
MP1 (t74631)
MP2 (t21334)
CO (t68624)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises to t6000, 1 fold, BB raises to t33675, Hero calls t27675.

Mr.WeakTight · #2 04-03-2007, 04:18 PM

If you're pretty sure you're going to get played back at, and all you have is a medium strength hand, you should limp or fold pre-flop. button raises look like steals and they already are going to think you're stealing. now is the time to tighten up and wait for a real hand - then when they don't believe you, it's good for you.

as played, fold to the push. even though they may think you're an idiot, they at least have a pair or or an ace so you're most likely behind.

Fiksdal · #3 04-03-2007, 04:23 PM

One thing is, anyone obersving this surely won't resteal much from you later. Which is nice.

kniper · #4 04-03-2007, 04:29 PM

well, after this call there wont be any restealing at all, he gonna be push/fold

Cablelessray · #5 04-03-2007, 05:20 PM

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One thing is, anyone obersving this surely won't resteal much from you later. Which is nice.

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that's not a reason on it's own... you aren't playing with pros here

flyingmoose · #6 04-03-2007, 05:28 PM

Getting 3:2 and putting him on a wide range of hands I would call for sure.

Fiksdal · #7 04-04-2007, 05:22 AM

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One thing is, anyone obersving this surely won't resteal much from you later. Which is nice.

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that's not a reason on it's own... you aren't playing with pros here

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Uhm, no it is certainly not a reason on it's own, I didn't say that. It's still a point in the discussion though.

TheFoxNL · #8 04-04-2007, 05:31 AM

i agree with fiksdal

you got a feeling that hes gonna reraise you
then ask yourself do i wanna call with this hand ??
after you answered that qeustion you can either fold or raise

qeustion even tho its putting your tourney life on the line wouldnt pushing be better ? seeing raising from button just gives BB more FE when he pushes ?

Cablelessray · #9 04-04-2007, 06:08 AM

wasn't trying to sound like an ass, just thought that the point wasn't important to this hand/situation... not that i don't first ask myself if that is relevent.

good to know you consider it too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

i'm implying you don't neeed to fret about it here

DLizzle · #10 04-03-2007, 05:30 PM

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If you're pretty sure you're going to get played back at, and all you have is a medium strength hand, you should limp or fold pre-flop. button raises look like steals and they already are going to think you're stealing. now is the time to tighten up and wait for a real hand - then when they don't believe you, it's good for you.

as played, fold to the push. even though they may think you're an idiot, they at least have a pair or or an ace so you're most likely behind.

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but i have a semi-legitimate hand and he's probably even more likely to push as a bluff if i limp