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04-02-2007, 05:30 AM
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Raise light, flop monster draw, face resistance.
I had a big stack at this table, and had won every time I showed down.
I had been stealing quite a bit. Didn't have much on the villain at the time, but he ended up being 17/3.75/0.53. Assume I knew that at the time, would you guys push this as hard? I didn't put him on the straight at all, I had him on overpair or set. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) MP3 ($112) CO ($213.50) Button ($98) SB ($215.80) BB ($177.85) UTG ($174.85) UTG+1 ($61.55) Hiro Protagonist ($647.65) MP2 ($199.60) Preflop: Hiro Protagonist is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hiro Protagonist raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $7, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: ($17) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hiro Protagonist bets $13</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hiro Protagonist raises to $640.65</font>, CO calls $166.50 (All-In). 
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#6
04-02-2007, 12:38 PM
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Re: Raise light, flop monster draw, face resistance.
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Why not call all the way to the river [/ QUOTE ] Simple question for you. Why is betting more +EV, in general, than check calling?
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#7
04-02-2007, 01:55 PM
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Re: Raise light, flop monster draw, face resistance.
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[ QUOTE ] Why not call all the way to the river [/ QUOTE ] Simple question for you. Why is betting more +EV, in general, than check calling? [/ QUOTE ] Fold Equity is your friend. Invite him over for dinner.. he likes seasame chicken.
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#8
04-02-2007, 12:46 PM
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Re: Raise light, flop monster draw, face resistance.
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Standard, good for metagame. [/ QUOTE ] LOL. You can't be serious. Metagame being "I will put all my chips in on a draw even though I know you have a set or str8t?". Great. That's setting up a good image on your bluff attempts in the future. For someone that seems to think they make good posts..uh you sure don't make a lot of sense and don't seem to have a good grasp on the concepts involved. Please explain the metagame involded in this hand. You are trying to infer that any future reraises will get action because they will put you on an inferior hand, but the point of all this is, if you put that villain on a set and STILL push, this is simply not a good push IMO. Perhaps in Omaha but not in NLHE.
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#10
04-02-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: Raise light, flop monster draw, face resistance.
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He actually called with Kings- I wouldn't have called in his place. [/ QUOTE ] That's not the point though. When you put him on a flopped set or possibly str8t and he raised your flop bet, you played your draw a bit too aggressive IMO. Now, if you had put him on an overpair (excluding aces)then its a fine bet because you have outs to the overpair. I just think your play wasn't too much different than calling all your chips with a flush draw given that you put him on a big hand on the flop and you knew he wasn't folding to your reraise. Would I have called all my chips there with KK and the stack sizes? Depends on my read of you at the time. I will say that your push over his raise was a bit strange. What big hand makes that play on the flop and not on the turn in most situations.
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