6 card omahahaha

[TylerD]

Anyone got any tips? As far as I can tell so far:

-redraws are key, nut straight on the flop is no good unless you have a redraw.
-naked aces are pretty powerful.

Is it possible that there is less variance in this game than 4 card?

[TheRempel]

Not having played it, here are my thoughts:

Redraws are necessary and you should probably have multiple redraws before playing a big pot.

Naked aces should go way down in value. It should also be pretty hard to have truly 'naked' aces since at least one or two of your sidecards will coordinate.

Logically there should be more variance, but if people are playing nitty it may seem lower.

[mixmastermattyk]

Bring several buyins? Play roulette instead?

[TylerD]

Should have mentioned. The game is solely played by long time, regular players.

[snagglepuss]

play tight. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[wazz]

Well.... pot size control becomes fairly important. There's nothing worse than looking at your hand and thinking 'wow I have an 8-card wrap, I have up to 28 outs to hit' when they're all in your opponents hands and give them the same straight anyway. Obv an extreme example, but card removal needs to be taken into account. Having back-up to your main hand is extreeeeeeeemely important. The runner runner draw WILL come in.

To give you an example of a recent hand in a game I play:

I have KQQ952, and have raised from the CO to isolate the UTG limper and the BB who are both awful. The SB is a strong player who is deep-stacked (I have about £1230, he covers, UTG and BB have about £1800 between them - lol, this is a £2 blinds game) and if he wants to play a hand I can't shake him off it. The flop comes 834r and UTG bets the pot, I call as does SB, turn is a J, UTG bets £20 and I take the opportunity to raise near the pot to get rid of SB, but SB wants to play and doesn't fold. Neither does UTG. River is a Q. SB quickly announces 'pot..... £400'. UTG folds. SB is either on a complete bluff or has the nuts, and I can't bring myself to fold.

Obv he had it..... and the point is, they often will.

How tight you play should depend on depth of stacks and who you're up against. If you can isolate the value you can play with weaker ranges, but if you're continually going to have strong players behind you you will need to tighten up significantly unless you feel you can exploit them even OOP. The games I play are usually very deep-stacked so you can afford to get fairly frisky with your preflop holdings and raise a wide range, as my post-flop edge is fairly significant.

Hands to get aggressive with preflop: double-suited (at-least!) rundowns, double-suited high two pair hands (low two pair hands are trash unless villains will stack off with two pair on the flop). AAxx doesn't have a huge amount of value simply because stacking off if you hit a naked overpair + NFD is suicidal.

On the flop and later on, exercise pot control if you've only got one or two nut draws. Leave the fish to pay pot-sized bets to draw to their naked nut flush draw. You want to be getting aggressive when you have, for example, 2 nut draws and two pair (or better), 1 nut draw and middle or top set, etc etc.

Mixing up your play is not very important unless you are getting deep-stacked with a good player.

Funny hand at the end of one of our sessions: it's HU, and villain calls 12-card omaha high-low, and has straddled his button. I raise him, he reraises back, I call. The flop comes down 256 rainbow. I pot, he pots back, I go over the top all-in, he looks at his hand and says 'I really like my hand but there's no way I can call'. He shows: A444789 xxxxx. I laugh out loud, and show him my A3333789 xxxx

[LA_Price]

Someone asked about this awhile ago in the other poker forum. They asked about 5 card omaha but 6 card omaha is pretty much the same. This was my response

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It's important to know that uniqueness in a hand becomes really important as so often when you make a straight or full house with an unflushed or unpaired part of your hand it will often be duplicated when somebody plays a big pot with you. Obviously with five card omaha some hands go down in value for instance in a deep stacked game top two goes down in value. Having backup up to any hand is really important. Position is huge. Limp and fold often from early postion and from the blinds without a really coordinated and unique hand. So often there are backdoor drawouts and there are so many cards that can freeze you that you want to play almost all your big pots from late positition. Know also that in this game you can sometimes be a favorite with a drawing hand even on the turn.

I remember a hand I played at the Cincinnati Club in Glasgow where on the turn my opponent held trip aces which was the current "nuts" on the board. I raised him with a wrap straight and double flush draw. Of course i lost the hand but the only way I could lose was for it to pair up the board on the end. Noticing these spots can have good value. Drawing to the nuts is less important than drawing in position. I would say you wan't to draw to the nuts when you are out of positon because it will be difficult for you to extract money with less but in position loosen up and play poker.

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My variance was actually pretty low when i played this game regularly at the Broadway in Birmingham.

[wazz]

Yeah, the KQQ952 hand sucks, but I had position on the table and we're all very deep-stacked. I don't agree with playing tight, esp if you have any sort of postflop edge.

Full house redraws become quite important as well, btw. E.G. having 432222 on a 443 board is pretty junk and should be tossed to heavy action.

[Big Dave D]

Unless you're a genius and they are so retarded they can't pick up their cards, there is no kind of postflop edge that will make up for such a terrible hand. It's probably not even a call.

And yes I have played a lot of multi card Omaha.

gl

bdd