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Old 03-25-2007, 05:25 PM
spyu spyu is offline
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Default More value from bottom set? 2-5NL

Was playing 2-5NL last night at the RIO. 500max buy-in
7 handed. I had about 650 villain covers. Villain seems to be a regular, but in my opinion plays pretty bad i.e. plays tournament style like pushing all-in pre-flop w/ 88 etc. He liked to push all-in pre-flop a lot and would check raise all-in w/ Ace high hands no draw.

Hero has 8 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG

Hero limps, 1 call, CO raises to 25, Villain calls, blinds fold, Hero calls, limper calls.

Flop: (103) A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero bets 15, fold, fold, villain thinks for a second and makes it 115. At this point I wasn't sure if he had AK or AQ. AA and QQ he reraises from his position pre-flop almost always. From what I've seen AJ/A10 or less he calls and any draw he calls or maybe min raises.

I didn't reraise in case he has AK. I asked him if he had AQ and flat called.

Turn: (333) J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, Villain checks. When he checked again I really felt he was on AK.

River: (333) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets $150, villain calls.

Definitely bet the turn or reraise on the flop? I felt if I reraised on the flop it would end the hand.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:26 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Default Re: More value from bottom set? 2-5NL

wtf are u doing betting 15 on the flop?
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: More value from bottom set? 2-5NL

thanks for the replies. Yeah now that I think about it I should've 3 bet the flop. I bet 15 for a couple of reasons. 1. I was varying my play since I had been potting alot of my monster draws and strong made hands. Also I knew villain would raise w/ alot of hands I beat. It was pretty late and I made a mistake. Do you always pot it because I don't bet top pair here for the pot into 4 people. How much do you bet and what other hands do you bet like this from this position? Asides from villain the others were fairly observant and so I wanted to disguise my hand a little.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:23 PM
CheddaBones CheddaBones is offline
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Default Re: More value from bottom set? 2-5NL

As played, I think your river bet screams "call me!" Is he good enough to realize you are value betting a strong hand? If he is, maybe u should push to make it look like you missed your draw.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: More value from bottom set? 2-5NL

your weak bet followed by a calling a huge raise disguised nothing.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: More value from bottom set? 2-5NL

65/175/push.

if he raises, reraise small, or call/donk next street, this hand is painful to read.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: More value from bottom set? 2-5NL

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your weak bet followed by a calling a huge raise disguised nothing.

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Old 03-25-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: More value from bottom set? 2-5NL

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Hero bets 15

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

yeah you missed value for sure here
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Old 03-25-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: More value from bottom set? 2-5NL

3bet flop
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: More value from bottom set? 2-5NL

bet more, then shove, c/r min, c/r AI, c/r whatever, c/c bet turn. bet more river, c/r river.

etc etc
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