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Old 03-24-2007, 01:13 PM
disciple disciple is offline
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Default 2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

Don't have much read on villian. seems kind of loose and passive. Initial preflop raise is huge, maybe just fold? Didn't want to since I had position and a good hand [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. Comments on all streets please. oh, my image is quite lag.

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: tag ( $ 200 USD )
Seat 4: hero ( $ 360.10 USD )
Seat 3: seat3 ( $ 102.38 USD )
Seat 2: villian ( $ 259.60 USD )
Seat 5: seat5 ( $ 82.75 USD )
Seat 6: seat6 ( $ 198 USD )
seat6 posts small blind [$ 1 USD].
tag posts big blind [$ 2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qc Ad ]
villian raises [$ 20 USD]
seat3 folds.
hero calls [$ 20 USD]
seat5 folds.
seat6 folds.
tag folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 7c, 5s ]
villian checks.
hero bets [$ 32 USD]
villian calls [$ 32 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
villian checks.
hero bets [$ 80 USD]
villian calls [$ 80 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
villian checks.
hero.........
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: 2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

I check behind here
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: 2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

I don't like a bet here, I am pretty sure you are beat.

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Old 03-24-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: 2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

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I don't like a bet here, I am pretty sure you are beat.



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Can't I get value from TT, JJ?
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: 2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

Someone asked about getting value form TT-JJ.
Sorry I don't know how to quote yet.

I think its far more likely that you're already beat, and if he does have TT JJ, he's not calling 100% of rivers either. I think its better EV to check.
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:50 PM
w33ktight w33ktight is offline
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Default Re: 2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

I just fold preflop, too often this weird giant raise is a hand that we do NOT dominate.

river is a check, seems to me he has something pretty goot and isnt folding. perhaps he played AA/KK this way, for some reason didnt cr flop, and the turn has slowed him down. perhaps he has a set and again didnt make a flop raise and got slowed up on the turn.

he open raised to 10x. he is a donk. do not bluff donks.
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Old 03-24-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: 2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

I fold preflop too for what its worth. I was just anaylzing as played.
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: 2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

Pf I'm not too sure about. I may just muck, but w/e. I would check the flop since I expect him to peel with AK a lot of the time tbh. Really hate the second barrel. I'd just check the river and hope he doesn't have Kings.
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:20 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

Yes there may be a little value from TT-JJ, but thats it and there are a shitton of hands that play this way that have you beat. I wouldn't be suprised ifhe turned up with a set or KK+ tbh.
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Old 03-24-2007, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: 2Barrel then TPTK, valuetown???

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Pf I'm not too sure about. I may just muck, but w/e. I would check the flop since I expect him to peel with AK a lot of the time tbh. Really hate the second barrel. I'd just check the river and hope he doesn't have Kings.

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Why do you hate the second barrel? My line is pretty consistent with a set, 2P, straight. well, maybe not 2P but I dont' think villian is that observant here.
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