Found "time pot" really annoying

betgo · #1 03-23-2007, 07:41 AM

Played the 20/40 limit holdem game at Borgata. They had something called a "time pot" where people agree that the time charge comes from the first two decent pots after the dealer change. I found this real annoying as it lead to tight play for several hands. Isn't it much easier to just pay the time charge?

Also, it got passed to me in the SB and the BB asked if I wanted to chop. I had a hand and said raise. BB kept going on and on about this. Other people at the table were saying what a jerk I was. I thought you had to agree ahead of time if you wanted to chop.

I found the customs at this game a little strange and everybody thought I was a noobie because I didn't understand them.

LasVegasMichael · #2 03-23-2007, 07:57 AM

You don't have to agree ahead of time whether or not to chop, but chopping should never be based on your cards. Proper etiquette is that you either always chop or never chop, period.

Granted, some people find it rude/annoying when someone never chops, but they shouldn't, so long as they are consistent. However, some people choose to always chop, against their better and slightly more profitable judgement, just to keep the game more pleasant and lacking in unncessary tension that could adversely affect their EV in the long run of that session.

Fish R Friends · #3 03-23-2007, 09:12 AM

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but chopping should never be based on your cards. Proper etiquette is that you either always chop or never chop, period.

Granted, some people find it rude/annoying when someone never chops, but they shouldn't, so long as they are consistent.

[/ QUOTE ] I would agree. One exception, AA, WHEN the room is running Aces Cracked or has a Bad Beat Jackpot. I simply say, "I can't" or "Check it down." when the option comes to me.

MrFizzbin · #4 03-23-2007, 11:39 AM

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but chopping should never be based on your cards. Proper etiquette is that you either always chop or never chop, period.

Granted, some people find it rude/annoying when someone never chops, but they shouldn't, so long as they are consistent.

[/ QUOTE ] I would agree. One exception, AA, WHEN the room is running Aces Cracked or has a Bad Beat Jackpot. I simply say, "I can't" or "Check it down." when the option comes to me.

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be careful about that AA cracked/check it down thing, some rooms have a minimum pot size clause before they will pay off.

Xanthro · #5 03-23-2007, 12:53 PM

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be careful about that AA cracked/check it down thing, some rooms have a minimum pot size clause before they will pay off.

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Oh why or why couldn't I have been at such a place when 13 consquetive showdown with AA I was cracked. I'd have made a killing. Sadly, I wasn't trying to get cracked, just unlucky and should have been more aggressive in some of the hands as well.

LasVegasMichael · #6 03-23-2007, 01:40 PM

It's true that with Aces cracked promotions, there is usually a minimum pot (usually $10-$20).

The onyl place in Vegas that does that program regularly is Excalibur, and though there is no pot minimum that I am aware of, it does need to go to showdown, of course.

MasterLJ · #7 03-23-2007, 07:01 PM

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but chopping should never be based on your cards. Proper etiquette is that you either always chop or never chop, period.

Granted, some people find it rude/annoying when someone never chops, but they shouldn't, so long as they are consistent.

[/ QUOTE ] I would agree. One exception, AA, WHEN the room is running Aces Cracked or has a Bad Beat Jackpot. I simply say, "I can't" or "Check it down." when the option comes to me.

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I've had the floor called on me for this.

Always make it a habit to tell the people on your left and right if you chop or not.

nineinchal · #8 03-23-2007, 09:04 AM

The time pot is a necessary evil for this game. The rent is $7/ half hr for this game. The dealer can take one or two minutes to get the time payments right. So to get in the extra hands it's worth it. I sat through fourteen hours of poker over the last two Saturdays in that game, and didn't get lucky on any of the first two hands of each round.I look at it as if I made $14hr for 14 hours.That is $196 bucks in my pocket, in the greatest game in town.

Chopping: I tell people, if I have a 7-deuce, I'll chop. If I have an ace, I ain't chopping, so proceed at your own peril. The way many of us from 2+2 play, they think I am douche bag anyway; so not chopping when I have an advantage is just another rationalization/validation of their own inadequacy for them of why they lose.

DrewOnTilt · #9 03-23-2007, 09:11 AM

OP: if you don't care for either time pots or chopping, don't do it. No one in that game will mind if you don't chop, or if you don't participate in the time pot. It's also pretty rare for the Borg 20 game to "tighten up" during a time pot.

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Chopping: I tell people, if I have a 7-deuce, I'll chop. If I have an ace, I ain't chopping, so proceed at your own peril. The way many of us from 2+2 play, they think I a douche bag anyway; so not chopping when I have an advantage is just another rationalization/validation of why they lose.

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That is the definition of douche-baggery, and it's also very discourteous.

nineinchal · #10 03-23-2007, 09:17 AM

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Chopping: I tell people, if I have a 7-deuce, I'll chop. If I have an ace, I ain't chopping, so proceed at your own peril. The way many of us from 2+2 play, they think I a douche bag anyway; so not chopping when I have an advantage is just another rationalization/validation of why they lose.

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That is the definition of douche-baggery, and it's also very discourteous.

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Douche-baggery is me!