River Value

Ian J · #1 03-23-2007, 12:07 AM

Stars 4 handed 2/4

Button open raises and I 3 bet As6s in SB he calls. Button is Piejay. He's kinda on the passive side for most guys in this game and I don't think he's great.

Flop Q 6 2 rainbow I bet and call his raise. Turn is 7s giving me flush draw and I check call. River is offsuit 6 and I c/r and 4 bet his 3 bet. Valuetown or spew?

bicyclekick · #2 03-23-2007, 02:21 AM

perfect

whodaman · #3 03-23-2007, 02:55 AM

will he pay you off with k6 here?
I assume so, since you 4 bet.
lets see there's k6, j6, T6, 96, 86, 56, 46, 36 that you beat.
I think he probably doesn't open 36 46, T6, or j6 like ever.
So seeing as tho you only have beat and get paid off by k6, 96, 86, or 56 i think 4 betting is complete spew.
You really think he has those 4 hands often enough to 4 bet?
I think 22, 77, q6, 76 are just as likely, if not more likely given the action.

hoppscot22 · #4 03-23-2007, 05:32 AM

depends how passive he is, never played 2 4 stars, maybe depends on how he is running/playing right now

i like your line.
when im playing bad ill c/r turn, but calling is the better play. and i like the river c/r 4 bet.

On the other hand...
i dont bet 3/bet enough, but would this be a spot to do it on the river or is that way too transparent?

Scary_Tiger · #5 03-23-2007, 10:11 AM

I wouldn't 4-bet.

daryn · #6 03-23-2007, 12:11 PM

i wouldn't 4 bet in the heat of battle, but when you stop and think about it, it looks like you squeezed value out, nice play i think

vincevegas · #7 03-23-2007, 02:38 PM

4 bet online pretty easy with no chance of 5 bet. Live could go either way.

DcifrThs · #8 03-23-2007, 09:15 PM

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Stars 4 handed 2/4

Button open raises and I 3 bet As6s in SB he calls. Button is Piejay. He's kinda on the passive side for most guys in this game and I don't think he's great.

Flop Q 6 2 rainbow I bet and call his raise. Turn is 7s giving me flush draw and I check call. River is offsuit 6 and I c/r and 4 bet his 3 bet. Valuetown or spew?

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i like the river 4 bet. more ways he has a 6 and plays it just like that than the boat. either one he 3 bets your c'r with and calls your cap (i dont think he folds 65 here).

plus he can't 5 bet so you dont lose anything but that last fraction of a bet if it isn't correct. but i ithink it is and i like it.

looks like he had some lower six.

Barron

Schneids · #9 03-23-2007, 11:53 PM

Piejay probably has 22. His game doesn't consistently involve raising mid pair on the flop, he'll generally call with it from my experiences. I would not cap vs him.

DcifrThs · #10 03-24-2007, 12:56 AM

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Piejay probably has 22. His game doesn't consistently involve raising mid pair on the flop, he'll generally call with it from my experiences. I would not cap vs him.

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thats fair, i haven't played with him so i'll trust your read.

B