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Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
Can my opponent have anything other than flush?
This was a hand that I really thought nothing about untill I discussed it w/another 2p2er. He had some interesting thoughts on it and I'm starting to be inclined to agree. Folding this river is not something I would do routinely, just against this specific player or type of player, in this particular hand. My opponent is a multitabling TAG 27/21 and plays pretty strait foward. I haven't noticed anything spectacular outta him or anything odd. He might even be on of you guys. Villain open raises in sb, I defend my bb w/JTo Flop Q89 2 diamonds Villain bets, I call Turn offsuit brick Villain bets, I raise, villain calls River 6d I bet villain c/r's I yell and scream at the computer and call like the showdown monkey I am. So read villains hand. What can he possibly have aside from a flush? No other hand makes sense Flush - makes perfect sense and is comletely sensible with his play. 1 pair - Never c/r's here b/c he's gotta be afraid of a number of things 2 pair - he's gotta be scared from the turn raise and that river is the worst card for him to c/r Set - Set would def 3 bet the turn or check call the river. No reason for him to c/r the river w/a set, unless its 66. But 66 has no business calling the turn raise and is unlikely to have made it to the river against this guy Strait - If he's got JT he'd prolly 3bet the turn. If he doesn't c/r the turn, only explanation is for him to c/r a non diamond board. When the diamond hits, isn't it very unlikely he c/r's here? He'd def c/c. Air - This is the only hand that makes sense for villain to hold that I beat. Do we think he has AJ or some missed draw often enough to bluff c/r the river? Seems like a bad spot to try it in a protected pot. So what does he have? Can I fold this river |
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Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
7T or 57 aren't in there at all? I agree on all other hands evaluation.
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Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
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7T or 57 aren't in there at all? I agree on all other hands evaluation. [/ QUOTE ] Hmm, T7 maybe but he did raise pf so I tend to down play 57. Also lets not forget calling my turn raise w/57 is pretty bad and this guys is fairly solid |
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Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
The guy is probably raising 57s preflop, but he'd have to have the flush draw to call the turn.
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1 small change
While looking over the HH, I noticed that I missed a detail or 2. So the pf action went MP limper, sb completed, and I checked.
Flop 89Q, sb bets, I call, MP folds. Rest of hand is the same. |
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Re: 1 small change
Oh then i take 57 out of his range, but keep T7 in there for sure.
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Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
If he's reasonable there are a lot of hands he can have that you beat such as T7 and lots of 2 pair or set hands that didn't want to blow you off what could very well be a moderate holding on the turn. c/r'ing a scare card river with a pretty good hand is a good play. It's not like he really has to fear you having the flush since this is a HU pot the whole way.
I'm not saying you're ahead here more than 50% after the c/r, but still way more than in enough of the time to call in my experience. -WT |
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Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
1. dont fold
2. he had a poor read on your true holdings, even str8 forward players over value 2 pair, sets, and str8s here... i dont think we see air though |
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Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
In this situation I'm definitely calling. Yes, in most cases he'll have the flush, but there's a lot of other possibilities too. 2 pair is still possible, especially with a hand like Q6s. He may be changing up his play with a set, a straight, or maybe even top pair just because it's heads up. In h/u pots a lot of players (including TAGs) will raise light in weird spots because they think their opponents are always trying to buy the pot with a bluff. You're getting 10:1, and I think you win this pot more than the necessary 9% to call.
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Re: Look into my oppoenants soul and tell me what he holds
since when is 27 21 not stantard tag?
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