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03-21-2007, 11:48 AM
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400NL 6 Max AA Hand
2/4 6 Max
Villain is relatively unknown. Appears to be standard TAG about 20/10/3. Nothing exceptional. Folded to me on the button. I open for 12 with 2 black aces. The SB (villain calls) as does the shortstacked big blind. I have 500. Villain has 360 and the shorty has 70 or so behind. Flop (36) K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Checked to me and I check behind. (comments on checking here) Turn (36) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Villain checks. Shorty bets 12. I call. Villain minraises. Shorty folds. I call. River (96) J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Villain bets 56. I fold. Comments on all streets appreciated. I'm most inetrested in the line to take on the flop here. I've spoken with a few good players about the hand who all think differently on the optimal line. Thanks. 
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#3
03-21-2007, 12:10 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
WTF. Bet fold flop is better than this line.
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#5
03-21-2007, 12:15 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
Why are you so afraid to get some money in the middle here? Raise properly preflop, and bet the flop, then you can start thinking.
As played, I call river. If I am behind, maybe that will teach me to get some money in while still ahead.
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#6
03-21-2007, 12:21 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
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Why are you so afraid to get some money in the middle here? Raise properly preflop, and bet the flop, then you can start thinking. As played, I call river. If I am behind, maybe that will teach me to get some money in while still ahead. [/ QUOTE ] What exactly is wrong with his preflop raise? How isn't it "proper"? He opens to 3x, what's the problem? OP: Bet flop plz. As played, I'm definitely calling the river
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#7
03-21-2007, 12:23 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
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[ QUOTE ] Why are you so afraid to get some money in the middle here? Raise properly preflop, and bet the flop, then you can start thinking. As played, I call river. If I am behind, maybe that will teach me to get some money in while still ahead. [/ QUOTE ] What exactly is wrong with his preflop raise? How isn't it "proper"? He opens to 3x, what's the problem? OP: Bet flop plz. As played, I'm definitely calling the river [/ QUOTE ] It's too [censored] small that's whats wrong.
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#8
03-21-2007, 12:24 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why are you so afraid to get some money in the middle here? Raise properly preflop, and bet the flop, then you can start thinking. As played, I call river. If I am behind, maybe that will teach me to get some money in while still ahead. [/ QUOTE ] What exactly is wrong with his preflop raise? How isn't it "proper"? He opens to 3x, what's the problem? OP: Bet flop plz. As played, I'm definitely calling the river [/ QUOTE ] It's too [censored] small that's whats wrong. [/ QUOTE ]
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#9
03-21-2007, 12:28 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
If 3x is his standard open raise, I don't see what the problem is. It's not like raising to 3.5x is getting a ton more money into the pot anyway... It's the flop where we need to be getting money into the pot. Preflop is the least of our worries I think
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#10
03-21-2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: 400NL 6 Max AA Hand
Ok let's say I called the river as my hand is now really underrepresented.
For all the people advocating a flop bet. Why do you want to do this? Is this for value or as a bluff? Does betting the flop with a one pair hand on a monotone board with no draw not bloat the pot and leave us in for trickier decisions on later streets?
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