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Old 03-20-2007, 09:26 PM
mvdgaag mvdgaag is offline
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Default super/system flawed for uNL

For the readers that read super/systems NL holdem advice... It just doesn't work very well for me at uNL. This is because the players do not seem to notice your agression and fail to get into the folding habit. Since the system depends so much on folding equity you are just spewing chips against all these calling stations.
Also because many people buy in very short all the small suited connectors and small pairs are hardly worth playing against any opponent.

What do you guys think?
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: super/system flawed for uNL

Correct . . . so stop spewing chips on fold equity. ^_-
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Old 03-20-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: super/system flawed for uNL

what's uNL?.... and yes, supersystem is for deep games.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: super/system flawed for uNL

Doyle explains that when playing against weak players, just make a hand and bet it.
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Old 03-21-2007, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: super/system flawed for uNL

whats uNL?
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Old 03-21-2007, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: super/system flawed for uNL

uNL = Microstakes (The u is supposed to be a (Greek letter) mu which stands for micro). So as in the Micro Stakes forum, 50NL and below.
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Old 03-24-2007, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: super/system flawed for uNL

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Doyle explains that when playing against weak players, just make a hand and bet it.

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Old 03-21-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: super/system flawed for uNL

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Doyle explains that when playing against weak players, just make a hand and bet it.

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Thats one point. The other point is, if you play with aggression the other players are not able to play like the should.

I recogniszed that the Smallstack (40 times the BB) is playing too lose. My opinion is that these players want to keep their loses small and buy in only for that amount. Would they play with only the High Cards and big pairs, the never would get in such a trouble the bottom line is the always in such a trouble and throw mostly the good money after the bad money (i hope you understand what i mean).

But you can also play the board. Is there a street possibility or a flush possibility bet big. Look for bets in hands before their fold their cards. Is the bet big. Bet big. is the bet small - you now the rest [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Your betting strukture must fit into the big puzzel. But you cant expect that a uNL player folds his street against a Full house or Flush possibility! I have such problems too, but I know I am not allone. I would only fold in this example if I am on a playlevel where the other players can fold a big hand. You must now on which thinking level your opponents play. If you see a paired board with a possible street and he makes the pot big and shows to the end the street, you now he call every bet, when he thinks he is best. You now know he is a true callingstation [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 03-21-2007, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: super/system flawed ? No

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For the readers that read super/systems NL holdem advice... It just doesn't work very well for me at uNL. This is because the players do not seem to notice your agression and fail to get into the folding habit. Since the system depends so much on folding equity you are just spewing chips against all these calling stations.
Also because many people buy in very short all the small suited connectors and small pairs are hardly worth playing against any opponent.

What do you guys think?

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Not every book you read is appropriate for all games at all levels. As you learn more about the stakes you play, you can apply what you have read from various sources to help your game.

Regards,
Carl
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:06 AM
RobNottsUk RobNottsUk is offline
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Default Re: super/system flawed ? No

Thank you Sean and mvdgaag. Yes, I was being 'naughty' but begginners with 20bb in stack, squirelling (or ratholing on wins), and playing push/fold poker relying on S-C charts, according to "Get Started in Hold'Em" are lets face it, effectively 'bots'.

Guys, deep stack 100+bb tables are the future!
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