PS $200+15 QQ faces ugly river

[miw210]

2nd hand, villain unknown.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t10000)
Hero (t9975)
SB (t9950)
BB (t10000)
UTG (t10000)
UTG+1 (t9100)
MP1 (t10000)
MP2 (t10975)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t275</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t225, CO calls t225.

Flop: (t900) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t300</font>, CO calls t300, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1500</font>, UTG calls t1200, CO calls t1200.

Turn: (t5400) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t5400</font>, UTG calls t5400, CO folds.

River: (t16200) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t2825 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t2800 (All-In).

Final Pot: t21825


Check my line?

[kniper]

hard to criticize you here. maybe raise to 1800 on flop, push turn? sort of awkward to get to the river with that small of a stack compared to the pot

[miw210]

Yeah, I was thinking I really should've pushed turn.

No chance for getting away on the river, right?

[Fireball_AA]

Are you really worried about the flush draw? He never calls the turn with a flush draw (maybe with AJs or KJs...not sure if he limps UTG with KJs, but maybe).

I would think he has a set, but why doesn't he push the turn?

Anyway, you have to call the river given the size of the pot.

Not sure I like putting 200 BBs on one hand when I only have a pair.

[miw210]

Agreed, it was obvious by the river that he didn't have a set or overpair.

Which led me to believe the only thing he would push with is his made flush AJs-QJs or KQs.

I wanted to get away from that river so bad. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[TCA]

Folding this river would be pretty bad getting around 8 to 1 or something. Your opponent should really have pushed flop, I think that would have given you a really tough decision - lead/raise looks so strong here. Obviously dont think you care too much about he should have played, your play looks absolutely fine to me here, turn is reasonably safe, you should probably just push it though. Leaving 2800 just makes you want to be sick on that river.

[miw210]

Results:

UTG has J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (flush, king high).
Hero has Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (one pair, queens).
Outcome: UTG wins t21825.

[baltostar]

Problem is with 2 callers it's expensive to really shut down flush draw on flop (a raise to 2100 gives single caller 2:1). That's expensive.

No way I pot bet turn. 1/2 pot maybe.

I think this is a case where the raw expense of playing the hand starts taking precedence over the odds given - even if you think you are ahead.

[oe39]

why did you choose a pot-size bet on the turn?

[miw210]

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why did you choose a pot-size bet on the turn?

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I'm still wondering that...

I think I wanted value for hands like KJs/AJs that would've missed a flush to call a river push with less than 3k left. At the same time, I was hoping to push off those exact hands from drawing on me.