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Old 03-13-2007, 12:23 AM
OrigamiSensei OrigamiSensei is offline
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Default Proper application of Clarkmeister?

Proper application of Clarkmeister? Comments also welcomed on other streets...

Ultimate Bet .5/1 Hold'em (Full Ring)

Preflop: OrigamiSensei is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, OrigamiSensei raises, 3 folds, Villain 3-bets, 2 folds, OrigamiSensei calls.

OS SEZ> I have had several early position raises fold around. This is the first time villain has 3-bet me but he has been aggro enough otherwise to make me thing he'll do this if he picks up a decent hand so I'm mentally extending his range to include hands like AQ, AJ, maybe a suited KQ.

Flop: (7.5 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
OrigamiSensei checks, Villain bets, OrigamiSensei raises, Villain calls.

OS SEZ> Not sure if this is silly or not.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
OrigamiSensei bets, Villain calls

OS SEZ> Okay, this look like overcards now.

River: (7.75BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
OrigamiSensei bets, Villain raises, OrigamiSensei folds

OS SEZ> Clarkmeister.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:26 AM
Grease Grease is offline
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Default Re: Proper application of Clarkmeister?

I like it. A lot. I may donk the flop, but a C/R never hurt anyone. I lean towards a C/R if he's aggro, and donk if he's more passive.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: Proper application of Clarkmeister?

Well, oen of the advantages of the clarkmister is that villan may fold a better hand to the river bet and sometimes wont raise with a hand that you are behind, if he does raise you are sure you are behind.

I think in this hand, villan definatly wont be folding a hand that beats you because I don't think he has a small spade or an overpair, in fact you say yourself after the turn that it looks like overcards. He will either have a big spade and call or raise or fold a non-sapde overcard hand.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:40 AM
00Snitch 00Snitch is offline
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Default Re: Proper application of Clarkmeister?

Oh, as for the rest of the hand.

I like the flop c/r. I figure you follow with a bet/fold turn. So I guess I don't really have a good play on the river, I don't like bet/fold for the reasons in my last post. You can probably nearly justify a check/call on the pot size.

I'm not good at poker.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: Proper application of Clarkmeister?

this hand is perfect. thank you so much for c/r the flop.
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Old 03-13-2007, 08:31 AM
OrigamiSensei OrigamiSensei is offline
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Default Re: Proper application of Clarkmeister?

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Well, oen of the advantages of the clarkmister is that villan may fold a better hand to the river bet and sometimes wont raise with a hand that you are behind, if he does raise you are sure you are behind.

I think in this hand, villan definatly wont be folding a hand that beats you because I don't think he has a small spade or an overpair, in fact you say yourself after the turn that it looks like overcards. He will either have a big spade and call or raise or fold a non-sapde overcard hand.

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There's one other thing to add to this otherwise good analysis: Clarkmeister forestalls the bluff. If he's smart and ballsy enough to bluff-raise me off the hand then "nice hand" to villain.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:05 PM
Neku Neku is offline
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Default Re: Proper application of Clarkmeister?

I ask this after reading Performance Poker (as a newbie, no less), so forgive my question: why did you call that 3-bet before the flop? Two raises would put him on a high pair, wouldn't it?
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:22 PM
Jaran Jaran is offline
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Default Re: Proper application of Clarkmeister?

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I ask this after reading Performance Poker (as a newbie, no less), so forgive my question: why did you call that 3-bet before the flop? Two raises would put him on a high pair, wouldn't it?

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Neku,
What are the pot odds to OS after the villian threebets? What are the odds of flopping a set? And, finally, are you really suggesting we raise/fold a hand pf?!?!? If you ever do this (outside of misclick scenarios), Tyler will bitch slap you.

-J
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Old 03-13-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: Proper application of Clarkmeister?

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I ask this after reading Performance Poker (as a newbie, no less), so forgive my question: why did you call that 3-bet before the flop? Two raises would put him on a high pair, wouldn't it?

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What the heck is Performance Poker anyway?
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