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Old 03-08-2007, 01:21 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

Not sure if I should post this in SSNL or MSNL, but decided to post it here and see how it goes. These are 4 hands I played in teh last few days. Some I won, Some I lost. I want you to tell me what ones I won and why. And also tell me what lines you like, and how I could/should play them differently.


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Hand1:


Villain here is Sonuvubitch. He's a tough reg, runs at 19/16/3 or so. We don't really have much history:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($396)
BB ($587.30)
UTG ($394)
MP ($867.10)
CO ($381)
Button ($390)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $14</font>, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($32) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, BB calls $22.

Turn: ($76) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $55</font>, Hero calls $55.

River: ($186) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $150</font>, Hero calls $150.


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Hand 2:

Villain here is CeroAngelo. Not really seen too much of him, so don't know if he's a reg or not. His stats are 28/17/3 and again, not really much history. I thin maybe 1 or 2 3bets as you'd expect, but pretty standard stuff

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($504.10)
UTG ($416.40)
MP ($230.95)
Hero ($504.50)
Button ($631.60)
SB ($90.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, Button calls $20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP folds.

Flop: ($50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $34</font>, Button calls $34.

Turn: ($118) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $90</font>, Hero calls $90.

River: ($298) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $310</font>, Hero calls $310.

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Hand3:

This guy is a buddylisted fish. A few hands ago I raise pre with 45s and he calls in BB. Flop is like 6TQr, he donks for like $12, I raise, he calls. Turn is 7o, he leads for $20, I call. River is 3. He c/c a 3/4 bet and loses with Q2o!!! His stats are 40/18/2

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($600.50)
CO ($416)
Button ($398.90)
SB ($555.88)
BB ($396)
UTG ($410)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $14, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($48) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $12</font>, BB calls $12, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $72</font>, SB calls $60, BB folds.

Turn: ($204) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $140</font>, SB calls $140.

River: ($484) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB calls $553.88 (All-In), Hero calls $327.88.

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Hand 4:

This one is also vs a player with fishy stats, but no history with him. His stats are 43/12/1

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SB ($522.20)
BB ($441)
UTG ($400)
MP ($929.90)
CO ($236.70)
Hero ($412.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($34) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, BB calls $24.

Turn: ($82) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $52</font>, Hero calls $52.

River: ($186) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $80</font>, Hero calls $80.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

Hand 1 - Win against an Axd hand, there's so many draws and none of them hit, I'd be inclined to say you won.

Hand 2 - Lose to AT or 44, I don't think you're losing to a better ace, but AT plays this the same way.

Hand 3 - Lose to JT (possibly hearts?), difference between this and the other hand you posted about him is that this time he is leading river.. kinda scary for a station.


Hand 4 - Win against some random bluff or split against a smaller ace. I dunno, seems pretty standard.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

1. you won. he'd 3bet pre with AK. KQ is possible i guess. he'd raise flop with a set or two pair.

2. you won. again, AQ and AK reraise pre. AT and 44 are possible, meh.

3. you lost. he rivered a flush or a straight.

4. you lost. guys like this can show up with a better ace here.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

Won
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Won
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

might lose, definitely lose, probably lose but might win, probably lose but might win.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

1) won, picked off a bluff from diamonds(he'd probably raise the flop?) or some random trash.

2) you won, sik call.

3) lost. Played fine. Cooler. Although if he's a fish, AK/KQ is a definate possiblilty.

4) you lost. I call turn and fold river FWIW.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

I think it's more important to say why the call is good in each hand, so that's what I'll try to do.

Hand 1: blind battle, huge range, missed draws, I'd expect a small vb with a king when all the draws missed, etc. I like the line, I'd bet a bet more on the flop, but that's because I'll bet closer to the $26-$28 with everything in this spot. I expect to be good around 50%, so obv the call is good.

Hand 2: hmm tougher, could go either way, but looks like you're only losing to AQ/AT, maybe 44. Have you seen him overbet before? Flip a coin if not.

Hand 3: His range is soo huge, you can't fold, but I'd raise more on the flop since we are multiway, we are slightly deeper than 100bb, and fish has already shown that he'll b/c the flop.

Hand 4: I'd expect to be good not much more than 1 out of 4 at most, so call if you feel like calling, fold if you feel like folding, I think it's close either way. Line looks good.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

Lost
Won
Won
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

won
won
lost
lost

i enjoy the just calling down some of the hands, giving them the opportunity to bluff. I think hand 1 we picked off a bluff
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

please can people give reasons rather than just giving numbers
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