Turn overbet shove 3/6 NL

Parlay Slow · #1 03-04-2007, 06:52 PM

Opponent is a weak tight TAG. If you hate the shove, what line do you prefer?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($671)
UTG ($114)
Hero ($990.25)
CO ($567)
Button ($141)
SB ($755.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, SB raises to $60, 1 fold, Hero calls $36.

Flop: ($126) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $60, Hero calls $60.

Turn: ($246) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $60, Hero raises to $870.25

Terrabon98 · #2 03-04-2007, 06:57 PM

normal raise accomplishes the same as push here...so dont like it

jfish · #3 03-04-2007, 06:58 PM

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normal raise accomplishes the same as push here...so dont like it

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dont really agree.

Terrabon98 · #4 03-04-2007, 07:11 PM

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normal raise accomplishes the same as push here...so dont like it

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dont really agree.

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Against weak/tight player who leads out 60 intoa 260 pot? Either he is scared and blocking, or is being tricky with a hand that's calling either way...weak/tight players dont make huge calls with marginal hands

amoeba · #5 03-04-2007, 07:24 PM

sometimes he bets the flop with AK.

LegallyBlind · #6 03-04-2007, 07:26 PM

can you take anything from his flop bet? or does he always bet like a little bitch

jfish · #7 03-04-2007, 06:57 PM

crazy spot. im trying to think of a better line, but cant really. fold turn maybe?

Isura · #8 03-04-2007, 07:10 PM

I think all 3 lines will work in getting him off of KK-QQ, but I like shove the worst because it doesn't give us a chance to either

1) suckout
2) use a club/spade/A as a scare card

and we lose the most when he gets sneaky with AA. So I prefer raising turn normal, and shoving some rivers best, and next is calling and raising a ton of rivers if he bets like this again.

Parlay Slow · #9 03-04-2007, 08:11 PM

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I think all 3 lines will work in getting him off of KK-QQ, but I like shove the worst because it doesn't give us a chance to either

1) suckout
2) use a club/spade/A as a scare card

and we lose the most when he gets sneaky with AA. So I prefer raising turn normal, and shoving some rivers best, and next is calling and raising a ton of rivers if he bets like this again.

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I think this is what I dislike most about my shove. I have position, and the stacks are still manageable. I can still conceivably fold out a lot of hands depending on the river.

berserk · #10 03-04-2007, 10:14 PM

This just looks gross... i see no reason for an overbet bluff.