bet or pot control?

PSW · #1 03-02-2007, 11:36 PM

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter

Haven't been there long enough for any real reads. Table seems a bit tight/pasive. BB is somewhat loose passive over less than 50 hands.

Stack sizes:
UTG: $7.90
UTG+1: $56.30
MP1: $17.70
MP2: $94.25
Hero: $47.60
CO: $15.05
Button: $95.25
SB: $39.70
BB: $67.90

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.75, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $2.5, Hero raises to $6, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($19.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero ??? Bet (how much?) or check for pot control?

Thanks,

psw

w33ktight · #2 03-02-2007, 11:43 PM

Raise more preflop, raise more on the flop.

I like a turn bet. Lots of his possible hands are 34/78/XdXd, Jx, etc.

Anywhere around 2/3 pot is fine on turn.

ikestoys · #3 03-02-2007, 11:55 PM

you must bet turn here. so many draws and weak Js......

ronitonline · #4 03-03-2007, 12:12 AM

You have to bet cause of the draws but I am a little suspicious, why would BB check the flop then call after a bet and raise happened infront of him?
I think we might see 66 here.

w33ktight · #5 03-03-2007, 12:15 AM

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why would BB check the flop then call after a bet and raise happened infront of him?

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because its nl50 and he has the NUTZ FLUSH DRAWWW

ronitonline · #6 03-03-2007, 12:17 AM

Could be true, I am not that familiar with NL50.

LegallyBlind · #7 03-03-2007, 12:17 AM

thats a very good turn card. checking would be very bad.

benlj21 · #8 03-03-2007, 12:30 AM

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Raise more preflop, raise more on the flop.

I like a turn bet. Lots of his possible hands are 34/78/XdXd, Jx, etc.

Anywhere around 2/3 pot is fine on turn.

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I agree word for word. I'd make it 2 preflop, about 7.50 or 8 on the flop, and 12 or so on the turn.

PSW · #9 03-03-2007, 03:45 PM

Well, as to PF, I do varry my PFR a bit. It was just time to go with a smaller raise. I do see the value of a larger raise on the flop.

Here is the rest of the hand. River play?

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $7.90
UTG+1: $56.30
MP1: $17.70
MP2: $94.25
Hero: $47.60
CO: $15.05
Button: $95.25
SB: $39.70
BB: $67.90

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.75, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $2.5, Hero raises to $6, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($19.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($39.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: $39.25

Xanta · #10 03-03-2007, 03:49 PM

I'd bet more on the turn to get more value out of jacks and charge the multitude of draws that are out there. When he checks the brick on the river, you're not getting any more money out of a draw but He might have JQ, JK, AJ and you can get value out of that with a small bet, say $20 bucks. If he c/rAI it sucks but you have to call for $10 more or whatever.