I want to fold this QQ to the min reraise so bad

[Bond18]

Stars 109
Blinds 100/200

I and opponent are both tightish.
My stack: 3200
villains stack: 2800

I am UTG with QQ
Villain is UTG+1

Preflop: I raise to 600, villain raises to 1200, folds back to me


Can i pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease fold!?

[WarDekar]

That's not a min-reraise first, but second... I don't know, you've already put in 3BB and he only has 14BB. You of course only have 16BB so losing this hand absolutely cripples you as you'll have to go all-in on the very next hand. If you had 4k, I put him all-in without any thought. Since you barely have him covered, a fold has to be considered.

I have no idea the table dynamic, was he re-raising much PF? Ever? Have you played with him before, any reads other than "tightish?" I could see him having hands that you're ahead of, even dominating. Just from "tightish" I'd put a re-raise at JJ+, AKo, AKs, maybe AQs. The thing is, why is he raising so small? He clearly wants to get at least 600 more out of you and is expecting to go all-in on flop. For this reason I have to lower his range to QQ+, and MAYBE AK, but again AK wants to be pushing here. Clearly he wants action, I say fold (and I'm not one to fold QQ pre-flop very often)


Also, do you have any stats on this guy from OPR or PokerDB? Those are entirely relevant to this decision I think.

[sobefuddled]

uhmmm, not to tip my hand or anything but I've found a small raise to be extremely effective in getting people with better hands than mine to fold....so fold away. :-)

[WarDekar]

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uhmmm, not to tip my hand or anything but I've found a small raise to be extremely effective in getting people with better hands than mine to fold....so fold away. :-)

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I'd like to see you mini-reraise the majority of your stack away with anything other than KK or AA here. If you do, you're an idiot (or maybe a genius, but I'm going to lean towards idiot)

[Fiksdal]

Anybody who makes this raise with any hand against an unknown is a bad player.

[4CardStraight]

no

[DDBeast]

Sorry Bond, I just can't allow it.

[Bond18]

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeease!!!

[WarDekar]

I'm assuming you went in and he showed KK or AA?

[Fiksdal]

Given the short stacks, I'd expect a tight player to shove 88+, AQ+, AJs+, perhaps KQ here.

This small raise for half his stack really confuses me. It's effectively a push, because he is never folding. He just told us something though.

I understand your idea of folding, especially given that you have both been tight.

I push this pretty automatically given stacks only. But I'm not quite sure what range to put villain on, and I guess that is about all this comes down to.