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Old 02-23-2007, 10:12 AM
Vammakala Vammakala is offline
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Default [200PLO] Should I be calling this turn?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $2 BB (3 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($176.20)
Hero ($200)
Button ($237.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, SB calls $5, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($18) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $12</font>, SB calls $12, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $65.1</font>, Button folds, SB calls $53.10.

Turn: ($160.20) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $105.1 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???

I'm not quite sure, I'm getting 2.6-to-1, I think it's marginally +EV maybe if all my outs (gutshot+fd) are clean. What do you think? No history, first hand at the table.
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: [200PLO] Should I be calling this turn?

any reads? i think its close, and that being said id call because i love variance
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: [200PLO] Should I be calling this turn?

id fold, but im weak tight.
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: [200PLO] Should I be calling this turn?

You cannot fold here, especially given that it may be a flush draw that is trying to bluff you out. The ace could actually be a good card for you if he had KK with hearts or something. It's not a great spot, but you have to call.
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: [200PLO] Should I be calling this turn?

Yea, these players were just hooooorrible from the brief experience I had there. I haven't played PLO200 before so I wasn't quite sure about this one. He obviously only had 45xxo So I had 12 outs, making it veeeery borderline - but I think I still had the odds to call to ~breakeven, even if he turned his hand face up.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: [200PLO] Should I be calling this turn?

Getting 2.5:1 on the call, calling is neutral EV if you know he has the straight.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: [200PLO] Should I be calling this turn?

Well, not quite:

th3h2sac
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
ah4s6d7h 25.02% 142,946 4,808
45** 74.98% 433,275 4,808

You need 3 to 1.
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Old 02-24-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: [200PLO] Should I be calling this turn?

Feh you hadda go and use a simulator. I just used the standard retard math of

52(decK) - 10 (known cards) - 12 (outs) = 30
30 non outs / 12 outs: 2.5:1

Obviously I didn't discount any outs which is probably where the discrepancy comes in.
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: [200PLO] Should I be calling this turn?

Also flop raise generally sucks with no pair if they are going to call with OE draws because they will pair up a lot on the turn and stupidly call off their stacks when ahead.
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