Donked

sean c · #1 02-23-2007, 12:36 AM

FTP 6 max. SB and UTG unknown and very new to table. CO is a big passive retarded fish.

Pre flop: UTG limps, CO limps, I raise Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] OTB, SB 3-bets, BB folds and the rest of us call.

Flop(4 players 13sb): Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks, UTG bets, CO calls, I raise, SB folds(WTF?), UTG and CO call.

Turn(3 players 9.5bb): 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG donks, CO folds(WTF?) and I???

BigBadBabar · #2 02-23-2007, 12:53 AM

calling is fine. raising and getting 3bet would be blah, even though we have tons of outs. in position we can call or raise on the river, depending.

milesdyson · #3 02-23-2007, 12:59 AM

Yeah just call twice and hope for the best. Obviously you're calling the turn and you'll be getting like 12.5:1 on the river call.

Ricks · #4 02-23-2007, 01:05 AM

Yes.

This would be a great spot for a free showdown raise but villain has already demonstrated that you may not get it.

Gib · #5 02-23-2007, 01:07 AM

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Yes.

This would be a great spot for a free showdown raise but villain has already demonstrated that you may not get it.

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This wouldn't be a good spot for a FSDR, for starters it's HU, you would be better off calling the turn & then raising the river if you improve.

BigBadBabar · #6 02-23-2007, 01:12 AM

you want an fsdr more when you're not likely to improve your hand, like second pair on a dry board. with our hand we have a lot of outs if behind and don't want to pump it up more at this point and charge ourselves. especially since given the board and villain's actions he may have something and reraise us.

Gib · #7 02-23-2007, 01:03 AM

call down, pop river if ya hit yer str8.

OziBattler · #8 02-23-2007, 01:42 AM

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call down, pop river if ya hit yer str8.

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Shillx · #9 02-23-2007, 01:48 AM

Call twice and see who wins. Don't raise for a showdown. Is anything better folding? Is anything folding that should call the raise? It obviously isn't for value if you don't plan on betting the river. See why raising and showing down isn't optimal?

BigBadBabar · #10 02-23-2007, 01:50 AM

babar and shill win; boom