$100NL Flopped Quad A's . Best strategy to extract $$ ?

[FearNoArt]

Though this situation doesn't come up much, what's the best way to extract the most from this ? Is maybe a flop bet the best, that way it looks like there is no way you have an A ? Maybe an overbet? Are my bets too small ? How do you play these situations ? My first instinct is to check.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($100)
Button ($28.45)
SB ($102.25)
BB ($116.10)
UTG ($100.85)
UTG+1 ($137.05)
Hero ($102.20)
MP2 ($20)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $3, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($14.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($14.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, CO calls $5, Button folds.

River: ($24.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, CO calls $10.

Final Pot: $44.50

Results in white below:
Hero has Ah 7h (four of a kind, aces).
CO has Kc Qc (full house, aces full of kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $44.50.

[Berge20]

King is a miracle card for you.

Bet more on turn and more on river.

[Etric]

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King is a miracle card for you.

Bet more on turn and push river.

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FYP

[D.L.M.]

given preflop i fast play the [censored] outa this hand.

[pterodactyl_]

I like a flop bet. As played more on turn and river. Why are you limping A7s from that position PF?

[jetsetboy]

I hate preflop.

Your bet on turn is fine, push river.

[Mr_Donktastic]

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given preflop i fast play the [censored] outa this hand.

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Yeah, it really looks like you have a small pp. It's debateable whether or not you should bet the flop - I think I would. Even if they put you on a small pp they might call with KQ anyway.

But either way the K is a great card for you, so I would bet the turn a harder and after getting called would just put vilian on a K and push the river.

[D.L.M.]

i dont like a flop check, If we all off a sudden come to life when a high card hits then we look even stronger, if we bet the flop villian knows we have a house, but he may think his jj is good. Or he may think he has some odds to take one off with jq kq whatever. my guess is that since all 4 aces are gone, he flopped a house and we need to build that pot asap.

[AKQJ10]

Incidentally, I half expect that you're going to tell us that you're really the one with Kx here. I'm quite sure that had you posted this reversing rolls, so that you're holding the Kx facing a huge river overbet, you'd get 60 replies of "Easy call. No one EVER has quads." 2+2 opinion seems to hold that no bet is ever too much to pay off with the second nuts, excepting 9x on a KQJTr board. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

So I think 2+2 expert opinion wrongly holds that your opponents will have the same difficulty you would in believing that quads could REALLY be out there.

[AlienBoy]

PF: If you play LAG, the A7s is maybe okay, if your focus is on post flop play. A7s in EP though is not tight, for certain.

Flop: a small bet here (that looks like a probe bet) might be okay, and it builds a pot that will be harder to let go later for some.

OTOH, given the preflop play, a check is okay too, letting more opponents improve. But the nice thing about betting the flop is that the opponent will think "oh, no one bets an ace here - this must be a bluff or a pocket pair".

Turn: If you bet the flop and were called, now you could get tricky and CHECK. Check call and open push the river will be confusing to your opponents, and a confused opponent is more likely to make a mistake. If you made this play and a diamond fell no the river, you'd stack him for certain, since he may think you're donking with a flush.

Or if you check and opponent pots it on the turn, you could push over right there. If you check turn and opponent check behind, then you do have to lead the river.

But a check call and a strong river lead could be baffling enough to the villain to induce a serious mistake. Or possibly a check/push on river could work.

Since these spots happen so infrequently, I think you either need to play it strong, or play it tricky. The play above is neither, it feels more weak/passive.

Myself, I like using these rare hands to be tricky - since they happen so infrequently, playing them incorrectly will not make a huge dent in your hourly rate.


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