TPGK OOP On Wet Board

[bung]

only have 5 hands on SB, and 15 on btn

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8BB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: 10BB

What do you guys think? TP overplayed?

[bobhalford]

Wish I could say more, but I'd play it the same. I'm sure the button can beat even K8 on the river so the fold is good. On the turn, betting is good because it collects money from those that are drawing to the straight (and you have to figure that at least one or both players are drawing to the straight). Since there was no PF raise, you shouldn't be too scared by the ace. On the river, not only did the straight come in, but so did the backdoor flush.

[jstill]

Id honestly ck fold the river I think. I may get roasted for that. I dont think Button will bluff bet 9x or JT into 2 or vb a worse hand if u check, or atleast not enough to call profitably. I'm not sure our hand is worth a bet here in the first place (altho many worse pairs whose draw whiffed might be apt to pay off).

u definitely didnt OVERPLAY this hand at any point though and if ur gonna bet the river u cant call the raise so NH there. I think the sames true if u check here, you have to fold for 1 more bet. Luckily u dont end up gettin put in that uncomfortable spot too too often.

[WuTank]

I think bet/folding is the worst line on the river.In my eyes its between check/fold or check/calling,but tending to c/f since you are beating nothing but getting 8:1.Only real hand you are beating is any 9 which missed the straight draw so you have to decide if its possible you get bluffed here 12% of the time.

[bung]

Fair enough. Thanks guys. jstill, on the river, would you not worry about getting bluffed off the best hand? True we don't have any reads on villain, but it is a large pot HU...?

[jstill]

well its not HU when u get to the river so that makes a pretty big difference for me in my mind.

it means he ll be far less likely to bluff or vb a worse hand if u check since the pot is protected.

[bung]

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well its not HU when u get to the river so that makes a pretty big difference for me in my mind.

it means he ll be far less likely to bluff or vb a worse hand if u check since the pot is protected.

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Yes, I see what you mean. And you're right, its not HU. Not sure why I said it was....

[Thorv]

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Id honestly ck fold the river I think.

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[W. Deranged]

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Id honestly ck fold the river I think.

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I think checking and folding to a single bet if there is no overcall is incorrect. There are plenty of busted draws or weaker hands that might take a shot here on the river that didn't get there when the 4 hit.

[Oink]

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Id honestly ck fold the river I think. I may get roasted for that

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I think its close between c/f and c/c. Hero certainly cant overcall. Without reads I dont mind a c/c.

The flop raise is fine by me. Since the pot is small does anybody like a flop call and then raising a safe turn / folding a bad one?
I mean, protecting our hand is not that big an issue in a small pot.