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Old 02-15-2007, 10:58 PM
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Default AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

Villan had loose stats, like 35/22 or something like that. No real read on his postflop play. Hero is TAGgy. Std here?

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
orange: $357.75
UTG+1: $142.85
CO: $51.15
Button: $203.55
SB: $238.55
BB: $198.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $8</font>, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($26, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $17</font>, UTG+1 folds, SB calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($60, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $44</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $98</font>, orange folds.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

Your flop bet is kinda retarted.

edit: I mean, maybe a little bigger? Turn is standard I'd say. His line is hella strong. And so is yours.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

flop bet bigger? what does 23 accomplish that 17 doesnt?
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

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flop bet bigger? what does 23 accomplish that 17 doesnt?

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NADA
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

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flop bet bigger? what does 23 accomplish that 17 doesnt?

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Might fold 66-TT with a bigger bet. Plus, wouldn't we bet $23 with AA, KK, QQ, JJ here?

As an aside, should our bet sizes be a larger or smaller fraction of the pot since we're 3-handed instead of HU here? Or neither?
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

I think I check behind on the turn...especially against an aggressive player for a few reasons:

1)might get him to fire the river w/ a busted draw
2)we get to showdown for almost the same price as bet/folding the turn
3)in the future he might bluff the river less often after I check behind on the turn...knowing I do it with some good hands as well as bad ones

And IMO...the flop bet is fine. If you really want to show that you mean business...I suppose $20 would be a good even number.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

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flop bet bigger? what does 23 accomplish that 17 doesnt?

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NADA

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Might fold 66-TT with a bigger bet. Plus, wouldn't we bet $23 with AA, KK, QQ, JJ here?

As an aside, should our bet sizes be a larger or smaller fraction of the pot since we're 3-handed instead of HU here? Or neither?

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Definitly. Because a cbet into 2 villains shows more strength than cbetting into 1, its not a bad policy to reduce the size of your cbet. Reasoning being its a ballsy move betting into 2 opponents and also the fact that the chances the flop hit an opponent are higher and subsequently, our chances of getting called are higher as well. We lose little FE and we save money.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

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flop bet bigger? what does 23 accomplish that 17 doesnt?

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23 accomplishes nothing more. I play this hand same way.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

I kind of disagree. I find that SSNL donks look for every reason to continue in a hand when they shouldn't. $23 truly says that "I mean business," while $17 could be construed as just a "c-bet that I can pick off cause I'm not just gonna get bullied PAL!!"
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

does no one check behind on this turn or is that awful?
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