77 deep 25/50

[MezmerizePLZ]

PokerStars Game #8460830050: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2007/02/15 - 21:15:52 (ET)
Table 'Minerva V' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Grandiose ($4925 in chips)
Seat 2: holla@yoboy ($9783 in chips)
Seat 3: The-Toilet 0 ($19742 in chips)
Seat 4: CapAJSJAG ($1507 in chips)
Seat 5: ayellowvette ($7828 in chips)
Seat 6: Daut44 ($4975 in chips)
Seat 7: MezmerizePLZ ($13663 in chips)
Seat 8: p3achy_keen ($5150 in chips)
Seat 9: gcnmoo ($4950 in chips)
p3achy_keen: posts small blind $25
gcnmoo: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MezmerizePLZ [7c 7h]
Grandiose: folds
holla@yoboy: raises $150 to $200
The-Toilet 0: folds
CapAJSJAG: folds
ayellowvette: folds
Daut44: folds
MezmerizePLZ: calls $200
p3achy_keen: folds
gcnmoo: calls $150
*** FLOP *** [7s 8s Ac]
gcnmoo: checks
holla@yoboy: bets $450
MezmerizePLZ: calls $450
gcnmoo: folds
*** TURN *** [7s 8s Ac] [9d]
holla@yoboy: checks
MezmerizePLZ: bets $1150
holla@yoboy: raises $2450 to $3600
MezmerizePLZ:

I really don't know this player at all - he seems to be playing a taggy game from the very few hands i have against him.

whats your line and why? (comments on all streets are fine)
I butchered this hand and i know it

[donkey]

call

[MezmerizePLZ]

and call allin riv then?

[ilikeaces86_]

Just shove

[Moonshine]

if he doesnt semi-bluff ever like this on the turn (and deep right now this seems like a bad spot) you're w/a w/b.

i call and re-evaluate river

[LurkerAnon]

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if he doesnt semi-bluff ever like this on the turn (and deep right now this seems like a bad spot) you're w/a w/b.

i call and re-evaluate river

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So what do you do on a blank river when he pushes?...I'd rather put him to a decision and a chance to make a bad call with 2pr, A-10, etc. If he does have the straight there're always outs [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[raptor517]

fwiw i juice it up on the flop generally.

[Ray_bob]

I dont understand why you dont raise on the flop. you have a great hand that is well hidden. with 78 of spades on the flop if you raise to 1250 or maybe just raise the pot. but either way your increasing the pot size with a good hand. there are a lot of scary turns that could come so without the raise on the flop your putting yourself in a very tough spot no matter what hits on the turn.

[Lefort]

Duuuuuuuuude with these big stacks I can't stress enough how important a flop raise is here.

As played, push. Your hand range has alot of draws in it from his POV, he could be on alot of air type hands that can outdraw you with a gay straight, and you may even get some calls from worse hands.

I highly doubt villain has a set/straight here, he doesn't want to see the turn go c-c.

[Moonshine]

Mez,

you should really convert the hand. THe stack sizes/pot sizes are kind of important here. I didnt really take the time to add everything up before now. I think you're at the point now though where you should just shove

oh, and raise the flop this deep. this isnt the time to get fancy