50NL: AKo in 3bet pot, turns K OOP against tighty

kerplunkNL · #1 02-07-2007, 04:06 PM

Stats villain 21/13/2.7. Haven't seen him gone out of line. Haven't tangled with him yet, at least not noteworthy. Seems solid.

I have raised quite a few amount preflop, especially OTB. I have 3bet a few times, can't recall if I showed down a hand that I 3bet, but I haven't done it with crap.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($114.95)
Button ($50)
SB ($26.65)
Hero ($55.70)
UTG ($83.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5.5, UTG calls $3.75.

Flop: ($11.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $7.5, UTG calls $7.50.

 Standard. 

Turn: ($26.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $15, Hero calls $15.

 Can't see him calling a bet on this turn with anything I beat. So I check/called this. Should I have crAI here? If so, what is the purpose of that?

River: ($56.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $55.65 (All-In), Hero ...

 Hmm... (have like $25 left)

Unknown Soldier · #2 02-07-2007, 04:08 PM

I like your line for the reasons you gave. I think the river is a fold. balgue theorem, all that stuff. Rarely a bluff when villain puts his entire stack in like that. Reads could convice otherwise though..

Imrahil · #3 02-07-2007, 04:34 PM

I think at best you're probably splitting with AKs. I'd fold even getting such great odds.

barryc83 · #4 02-07-2007, 04:35 PM

I'd raise more pf honestly. Cbet is standard. Then you hit your card and I don't mind a check. I'm never thinking about folding this hand though (maybe a leak of mine) once this card hits. If I think he'll call off his stack with a pp after that card hits then I just CRAI on the turn. I don't mind calling turn and lead pushing the river as it sometimes confuses opponents and makes it look like youre bluffing. Your line is good against very aggro opponents but I want my whole stack in so I'd push river. If you really thought this guy was that tight under the gun, why 3bet him OOP? The only hand I'm worried about here is AA.

eviljeff · #5 02-07-2007, 05:22 PM

first question: how many hands do you have on villain?

this hand is entirely opponent dependent. at higher stakes vs a non-nit reg who's going to be floating you a ton this turn is pretty much always a bet/all-in or crai.

here vs a guy you don't have a lot of history with who might be nittish and probably isn't floating, your line is good as long as you fold the river.

BoozeHound · #6 02-07-2007, 05:47 PM

If you take this line I think you have to CALL the river. What do you put him on, exactly a 4 or a set? He almost never has aces here.

eviljeff · #7 02-07-2007, 05:51 PM

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He almost never has aces here.

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no

Leviathan101 · #8 02-07-2007, 06:11 PM

I think it's really close. I feel there is a decent chance he has KK, AA, AKs. I dunno if he QQ or JJ bets the river. I think this is pretty opponent dependant. I would probably C/R turn AI, as he could have TT+ there.
As played... I think I call.

ajmargarine · #9 02-07-2007, 07:00 PM

River is a call. You've really underrepped your hand. I'm torn as to whether the rest of the hand is played well or not. When you choose to 3b a hand preflop, you usually have to be happy to felt TPTK/overpair on innocuous boards.

kerplunkNL · #10 02-07-2007, 07:20 PM

The villain seemed solid and capable of thinking on the 2nd level ("what does my opponent have?").

Maybe I am overestimating villain's capabilities but how can he valuebet with 99-QQ here? With what kind of hands do I call a riverbet with that beats 99-QQ? And I don't see him bluffing.

Maybe off-topic: what kind of reads would warrant a rivercall or a riverfold?