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02-07-2007, 02:27 AM
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Myths about UIGEA from \"semi-pro\"
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02-07-2007, 03:07 PM
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Re: Myths about UIGEA from \"semi-pro\"
Also from Bill's Blog
http://www.billrini.com/2006/11/23/h...-ppa-help-you/ http://www.fightwhatsnext.org/
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02-07-2007, 07:08 PM
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Re: Myths about UIGEA from \"semi-pro\"
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[ QUOTE ] I haven't seen this posted from Bill Rini's blog; a link if I may... [/ QUOTE ] Bill Rini (Rini?) is billman on 2p2 and is very active on this board. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I discovered that about an hour after posting. His profile mentions the blog. Anyway, the myths (and known facts) need to be read, discussed, disproven, or verified as part of our process to plan and attack.
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02-07-2007, 03:13 PM
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Re: Myths about UIGEA from \"semi-pro\"
I wonder what Rini's posting account name is here on 2+2.
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02-07-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: Myths about UIGEA from \"semi-pro\"
Well, I didnt agree with everything in this article, especially the part about poker not being a game of skill under legal definitions/Dominant factor test. Just because a poker hand CAN be decided by chance does not mean that chance is the Dominant factor in the game - that ignores bluffing and inducing folds, for example which are the far more common way in which a hand is resolved.
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02-07-2007, 04:26 PM
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Re: Myths about UIGEA from \"semi-pro\"
Not only that, but the idea of "contest" is fictitious. Are they considering one hand a "game"?
Why is bridge skill? Any team can win any given hand. Why is gin rummy skill? Any player can win any given hand or match to 100 points. Why is billiards skill? A worse player can EASILY beat a better player in a game. I think we'll all agree that the determining factor is the time frame used. Poker isn't skill in the short term (one hand). Everyone knows that. But, neither are many of the other skill games.
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02-07-2007, 06:25 PM
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Re: Myths about UIGEA from \"semi-pro\"
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Not only that, but the idea of "contest" is fictitious. Are they considering one hand a "game"? Why is bridge skill? Any team can win any given hand. Why is gin rummy skill? Any player can win any given hand or match to 100 points. Why is billiards skill? A worse player can EASILY beat a better player in a game. I think we'll all agree that the determining factor is the time frame used. Poker isn't skill in the short term (one hand). Everyone knows that. But, neither are many of the other skill games. [/ QUOTE ] IN college, a long time ago (mid 1970's), I played a lot of bridge. I was a 3 time intermural duplicate bridge champion at Vanderbilt University at ZBT fraternity. Rubber bridge is as much luck as poker because you need good cards to make games. However, duplicate bridge is all skill because the cards are the same for everyone. Still rubber bridge is all skill in the long run, but probably less long than poker. In my sophmore and junior years, I played with a partner 1 year older than myself. We did lose some rubbers, but rarely lost to any pair in any evening. I often paired with other persons and usually won. My partner and I occassionally played duplicate bridge at clubs in Nashville and won several times against older players.
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02-07-2007, 08:44 PM
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Re: Myths about UIGEA from \"semi-pro\"
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Well, I didnt agree with everything in this article, especially the part about poker not being a game of skill under legal definitions/Dominant factor test. Just because a poker hand CAN be decided by chance does not mean that chance is the Dominant factor in the game - that ignores bluffing and inducing folds, for example which are the far more common way in which a hand is resolved. [/ QUOTE ] Well you should probably read several experts on gaming law. I am not a lawyer and did not make that part up. Some of the most respected minds in gaming law will tell you that there's a difference between a game being mostly skill and being predominately a game a skill. And if you don't understand that distinction you should invest the 10 minutes it would take to educate yourself. I'm not talking wild stuff here. I took this opinion from some of the most respected legal minds on the subject.
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