($1/$2) AK TP - should I be raising throughout.

[BHokie1]

Hi - my first post in your forum, I'm a STTer trying my hand at limit.

I hope I learn as much from this forum as I have from that one.

Thanks in advance.

Do you re-raise the flop?

With the nut flush draw on the turn - do you call or raise here.

Comments on all streets appreciated.

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

[DannyOcean_]

Generally I think check/calling down is ok after the 3-bet. I think there's a good chance you are behind but enough of a chance youre ahead to justify calling down. I would guess that Ax flopped two pair

[winkydinky85]

Looks fine to me. The flush draw at this Limit means nothing as it relates to raise or call. It just mean that there is no reasoning to convince yourself not to see the river.

[Faluzure]

Personally, I like raising this turn, it's a scare card to our opponent (unless he just hit his flush in which case he'll probably 3 bet) and it gives us a chance to get another bet in on the river if we improve. Most times, he'll just call, then check/call river, so you can check behind UI, and still put in the same amount of bets. If he 3 bets you, you call and fold UI. By the by, I don't cap flop.

[winkydinky85]

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Personally, I like raising this turn, it's a scare card to our opponent (unless he just hit his flush in which case he'll probably 3 bet) and it gives us a chance to get another bet in on the river if we improve. Most times, he'll just call, then check/call river, so you can check behind UI, and still put in the same amount of bets. If he 3 bets you, you call and fold UI. By the by, I don't cap flop.

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That Heart and this point in time changes nothing. Raising to build the pot on the turn when you are less than a plurality (or in the case majority) to build the pot is just spewing. Of course this is assuming you are behind.

[Faluzure]

I wouldn't say that it changes nothing, since it likely gives us an extra 8 or 9 outs if we are behind. I think raising makes us much tougher to read in the future and likely will get us more value when we actually have flushes. I guess at 1/2 thinking opponents aren't too numerous though, but if you always raise when you have a made hand, but never on a draw or without one, you'll have trouble moving up for sure. If we assume we never get a better hand to fold, and that our opponent mostly bet/calls when a 4th heart comes then I agree. But if our opponent has a hand like we think he does, he's almost always check/calling on the end when a heart comes. We get an extra bet in when we improve, and put the same amount of bets in that we would've when we don't anyway.

[mmctrab]

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I wouldn't say that it changes nothing, since it likely gives us an extra 8 or 9 outs if we are behind. I think raising makes us much tougher to read in the future and likely will get us more value when we actually have flushes. I guess at 1/2 thinking opponents aren't too numerous though, but if you always raise when you have a made hand, but never on a draw or without one, you'll have trouble moving up for sure. If we assume we never get a better hand to fold, and that our opponent mostly bet/calls when a 4th heart comes then I agree. But if our opponent has a hand like we think he does, he's almost always check/calling on the end when a heart comes. We get an extra bet in when we improve, and put the same amount of bets in that we would've when we don't anyway.

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Why is villain donking the A high flop? Isn't it fairly likely that he is on a flush draw as well, and made his flush on the turn?

[Zeldark]

I like it. I might semi-bluff raise the river, but that can create some variance. HU calldown with an ace and best kicker against the BB? It works. You could have him outkicked or he could've completed his draw. I'm curious what happened.

[Tiburon]

*grunch*

I think you played this fine. When you get 3bet on the flop, going into calldown mode is fine depending on the player. Any reads on BB? The ten is an interesting card, but I still think I call from here.

[Faluzure]

I definitely think calling down is fine, and I think you should raise a K, T or heart 4 value, but I don't think you should call down everytime, I probably raise 55-65% of the time in this spot, against unknown opponents.