I've lost my cahones!!

ama0330 · #1 02-04-2007, 05:55 PM

We are $80 deep at NL50. Villain is 24/12/2.3 over a big sample and is a meow chow abc run of the mill tag. Could be uNL 2p2 even.

What do you say? Am I teh giant Vag? I think the initial raise was a little small.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB raises to $2.5, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, SB raises to $18, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $12 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $13

ye1tzen · #2 02-04-2007, 05:57 PM

Probably. What are the stacks?

CHUDO · #3 02-04-2007, 06:54 PM

LOL i bet villian got KK too :P

ama0330 · #4 02-04-2007, 06:56 PM

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I also thought about this, whether a call or a fold is better preflop if you feel like you might be splitting.

jonyy6788 · #5 02-04-2007, 07:27 PM

These spots come up quite a bit and I've found a majority of the time I'm beat.

Here's the dealio, u got KK, u push and he's calling $60 with AK/QQ/JJ????????

prodonkey · #6 02-04-2007, 09:17 PM

I've done this a couple times lately and I've been looking at AA every time. I haven't seen a tag 4 bet without AA or KK in a long time.

RAHZero · #7 02-04-2007, 09:19 PM

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I also thought about this, whether a call or a fold is better preflop if you feel like you might be splitting.

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Well obviously with money already in the pot, calling for a split is better than folding.

Yeah, your RR was too small, I think $7.50 or $8 is good here. As played, I call the 4-bet and try to get it all-in on the flop. I'm a pretty straight-forward TAG most of the time, and I've 4-bet QQ and AKs in these spots before, so folding here seems pretty weak.

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1. Given my table image which is squeaky clean, what is his 4 betting range, given that he hasn't done it at all yet?
2. If I call, and the flop comes low, and he leads, what do I do to avoid RIO?
3. If I decide I like my hand, I am basically push or fold here right?
4. Do I want to commit 150bbs to a raise that will only fold worse and be called by better?

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1. AA-QQ, AKs? For some, this may only be AA or KK. I may also be biased from playing NL 100 lately, where the games are really aggro.

2. Shove flop. After that action, he never folds QQ there if he's invested that much.

3. No, if you shove PF here you only get called by AA or KK, the QQ and AKs will get away.

4. Absolutely not, which is why you call here and play poker on the flop.

ama0330 · #8 02-04-2007, 06:01 PM

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We are $80 deep at NL50.

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davidyang · #9 02-04-2007, 06:03 PM

Does he have a read on you? What's your image at the table? I feel like I would at least call, and see a flop. Folding preflop with kings makes me feel icky, even against a TAG.

ama0330 · #10 02-04-2007, 06:07 PM

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Does he have a read on you? What's your image at the table? I feel like I would at least call, and see a flop. Folding preflop with kings makes me feel icky, even against a TAG.

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My image is really tight, ive been attacking the button but I am totally behaving myself. About 19vpip I would say.